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VicCina Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2016 10:26 p.m. PST

My group has decided to venture into doing some ECW battles. So I painted up a unit for the group to use.
I also used the Army Painter Method to paint these. My blog post details how they turned out.
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Costanzo108 Aug 2016 10:57 p.m. PST

You can do better.

Timmo uk09 Aug 2016 2:32 a.m. PST

To my eyes that's a very good start now you need to paint in the detail to make the paint job make sense i.e. to eradicate the blue undercoat from where you don't want it. TBH I don't see what you've gained by priming blue – it seems to have created a whole load of work.

mashrewba09 Aug 2016 3:05 a.m. PST

To be honest I quite like the effect.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP09 Aug 2016 5:40 a.m. PST

Nice, so you'll prime each unit in the base color?

davbenbak09 Aug 2016 6:19 a.m. PST

Sorry. Not a fan of your method but…I would like to see what they look like en masse. If I had to paint 200 figures in one week this might be the way to go.

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP09 Aug 2016 6:28 a.m. PST

Nnascati,

Yes, the premise is you prime the figures in uniform color and then paint the details. I'm not totally sold on this method but if I had to do a bunch of figures quickly then I would probably do it this way or I should plan better and give myself time to paint them correctly. :-)

Oh Bugger09 Aug 2016 6:32 a.m. PST

You have bits of blue undercoat coming through every where. You might get a better result with a brown undercoat. What Timmo said really.

Over all if they were mine I'd now go back and finish them off by painting in the detail. Try one and you will see what I mean.

steamingdave4709 Aug 2016 9:21 a.m. PST

Not a fan of brown army painter on blue. I would follow suggestions above re repainting over the blue undercoat, which is showing through in places and, for future figures, use a wash which is appropriate (I find Future Klear polish with black acrylic ink added makes a good general purpose wash for most colours. It is also easy to make custom washes for colours where black is not the most appropriate).
I share your frustration with plastic figures- I gave a box away because they were driving me mad trying to assemble. I use Metal figures now, preferably one piece types.

normsmith09 Aug 2016 10:47 a.m. PST

I quite like the idea of priming with the base uniform colour as a principle, especially if there is a lot of that uniform, so priming `Austrians White and Confederates grey is brilliant.

Once primed, I apply a heavy coat of ink and then go back in and rescue the the highlights of the primer colour (in this case blue).

The block paint that follows needs to kill all of the surplus primer (blue).

The choice of shading is an individual decision, at this stage, I would tend to selectively ink parts of the figure and then go back in with a fast highlight.

You have chosen to poly dip, and the two problems as I see it is that the dip went on too thickly and has 'dirtied' the figure too much and the dip tends to 'bronze' some colours ….. blue being one such colour.

I am also guessing that in your efforts to get the excess dip off, you have also taken away some of the block painting, to reveal blue primer.

I think the process is worth staying with for 'speed painting' and that the technique perhaps needs tweaking rather than abandoning.

I know some people put KLEAR on their figure before inking / dipping to reduce the effect of dips sticking to high areas (caused by the excellent tooth that acrylics offer!)

good post and thanks for sharing, I think this sort of thing really helps gamers.

Henry Martini09 Aug 2016 9:50 p.m. PST

Dark tone is the appropriate Quickshade for cold colours, and would have worked better on the armour, too (a less rusty effect). It contains more black.

If you'd combined it with lighter shades of brown on leather items and trousers the shading effect there would have been superior to that achieved.

Finally, it's worth going back with a small brush dampened with thinner/turps and removing dip from the most raised detail to create highlights, especially on bright colours. You just have to remember to retouch these areas with clear gloss varnish.

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2016 10:01 a.m. PST

I was unaware of that for using the Quickshades.

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