Tango01 | 06 Aug 2016 9:35 p.m. PST |
… Utter Destruction Of Hiroshima And Nagasaki And Month After The Atomic Bombs Were Dropped. "This newly released video shows the utter devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki shortly after atomic bombs obliterated the cities in August 1945. Soviet Union researchers captured the harrowing footage of the flattened Japanese cities around a month after the US bombings took place. The black-and-white video, which is around five minutes in length, was presented to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in June this year by the chairman of the Russian State Duma, Sergei Naryshkin…." See here link Amicalement Armand |
Allen57 | 07 Aug 2016 5:47 a.m. PST |
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Dye4minis | 07 Aug 2016 8:19 a.m. PST |
Sould show the aftermath of Pearl Harbor attack before this. Then a fuller appreciation can be had of what happened to yet another country with Imperialistic motives. IIRC, the US did not bomb Pearl Harbor….. They did not die in vain, they saved the lives of countless other people had the war gone on, on both sides. |
The Virtual Armchair General | 07 Aug 2016 1:28 p.m. PST |
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Zargon | 07 Aug 2016 2:31 p.m. PST |
Some real trumpet blaring there, stop with the cause and effect thing, death is death. 250000 immediately killed + unknown from radiation vers 5000+ servicemen yes? Connection of one a attack on a military target the other a strategic target to knock the Japs out of the war is this the real reason? Think not. Then the after mass of using 2 weapons of mass destruction (WMD). By such thinking you'd think some people are happy with the analogy, I slap you kill my whole family, that just sounds silly and bombastic. Tragedy is tragedy in war and otherwise what was shown on that film is just that, no need to link anything even if you feel latent gilt ove the decision to kill a quarter of a million people in a couple of blinks of an eye. The good? people learnt nuclear weapons are bad news. And yes it is good to remember the fallen but stop with the, the enemy got what they deserved tripe, its unseemly on the memory of the fallen on all sides. |
zoneofcontrol | 07 Aug 2016 5:39 p.m. PST |
Hiroshima & Nagasaki were not the only sites to receive similar desolation. Theirs stand out because of the type of weapon used. Their fate while horrible, served to shorten and end a war that was going to be much more dreadful. Much of the rest of Japan would have looked similar had the war progressed on its planned course. Indeed parts already looked the same. It would be really cool if people and things didn't get killed and broken in a war. However, I am smart enough to know that that is not what happens. The only solace is that the fate they suffered meant that others, many others, did not share it with them. |
Murphy | 07 Aug 2016 8:17 p.m. PST |
"…but stop with the, the enemy got what they deserved tripe, its unseemly on the memory of the fallen on all sides." Based on what I learned about the actions of the Japanese against the Koreans as well as the Chinese, and their atrocities towards civilians, and prisoners, including the actions of Unit 731, I'd say they got what they deserved… |
Weasel | 07 Aug 2016 10:40 p.m. PST |
I don't want to get into a whole bunch of about whether we should or should not have dropped the bombs, because A: I wasn't there. B: My opinion doesn't change what happened either way. C: We all have better things to do. But I will point out that the reason the nuclear bomb sites are viewed differently is because they were the birth of the post-ww2 age of nuclear fear.
Entire generations grew up with the knowledge that a nuclear war could wipe out everything they knew in moments and that mankind had finally achieved a weapon that could potentially be life-ending for our species. They also mark the slow, creeping victory of rationality that prevented the weapon from ever being deployed again. THAT is why they are significant.
You may now go back to fighting about the same old stuff.
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Col Durnford | 08 Aug 2016 11:05 a.m. PST |
Weasel has a very good point RE first use. Imagine a world where the first bomb was dropped in 1977. When ever this comes up I am reminded that the U.S. cast up a boat load of Purple Hearts in preparation for the invasion of Japan. Korea, Vietnam, and all the actions that followed has not yet exhausted that supply. |
Rrobbyrobot | 08 Aug 2016 12:30 p.m. PST |
I agree with Murphy. Even if it gets me dawghoused. |
Zargon | 08 Aug 2016 1:24 p.m. PST |
Weasel and co, I have to agree, the painting says it all. |