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MuggyD30 Jul 2016 12:11 p.m. PST

Would they have been in OD or in grey? I have seen models painted in both colors and looking for advice.

Thanks in advance!

nazrat30 Jul 2016 3:12 p.m. PST

I have never ever seen any photos of USMC tanks that would lead me to believe they were ever in grey. I always paint mine olive drab.

zoneofcontrol30 Jul 2016 3:58 p.m. PST

I too do not recall seeing tanks in grey, only OD. Not saying I am the be all and end all, just what I have seen. I have seen pics of AMTRACKS in Gray and OD. Is that possibly what you recall seeing?

hedeby30 Jul 2016 6:08 p.m. PST

I would recommend watching the HBO series 'The Pacific'. They did a lot of research. Marine green is different from US Army o.d. I have read that they did use Army vehicles too. I am not 100% sure, but I believe the old Testors Paint company paints show the two different greens. I am talking the original 1/4 oz paint bottle rack.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2016 6:53 a.m. PST

All Shermans left the factory in OD. While long debated the consensus is that it was VERY doubtful the Marines would waste time repainting a perfectly good tank. And many tanks the Marines received were "hand me downs" from Army stock. In fact many photos at Tarawa, for one example, still show the Army blue registration numbers on them. If repainted they would not be there.

zoneofcontrol31 Jul 2016 7:01 a.m. PST

Somewhere here on TMP is a thread about this subject. I tried a couple of search term options but came up blank. It either contains the info you want or has a link to it.

As I recall, it states that USMC tanks were obtained either through or in conjunction with the US Army. They came off the line and were deployed in standard OD. If/when the Marines painted them to a camo pattern or if they needed to be repainted at all was the time they used the USMC Green color. I cannot vouch for the accuracy because I cannot even find the source. I hope this helps put you on a path to the correct answer.

zoneofcontrol31 Jul 2016 7:03 a.m. PST

Ha Ha. Marc was posting as I was typing. I need quicker fingers!

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2016 7:56 a.m. PST

Shhhhhh! We were coordinating our answer!

Marc

green beanie31 Jul 2016 2:30 p.m. PST

didn't the USMC use M2A4's at the "Canal"? I have an old copy of the book "Guadalcanal Diary" that has a picture of a USMC M2A4.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2016 3:03 p.m. PST

The 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division used M2A4's, M3's and M3A1's. First use of the Sherman by the Marines was Tarawa. My comment is still correct, just change "Sherman" to "US tanks" :)

Rhino Co31 Jul 2016 3:11 p.m. PST

Seven Zaloga's book NV-186 US Marine Corps Tanks of WWII, said that the USMC obtained their tanks through US Army production contracts therefore delivered in standard US Army olive drab instead of USMC dark green.

Personal logo Milhouse Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2016 7:02 p.m. PST

In The Pacific the trucks and jeeps are definitely a different green.

doug redshirt02 Aug 2016 1:49 p.m. PST

On Tarawa also the marine armored unit had new tanks. They had worn out the training tanks, so they got the latest units coming off the line. Without those tanks on Tarawa it would have been far worse. After Tarawa the Marines were firm believers in combined arms. Yeah every man is a rifle man first, but sure a lot easier when you have 25 tons of armor leading.

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