Tango01 | 28 Jul 2016 9:52 p.m. PST |
"Many analysts believe Turkey and NATO are on a collision course. One end of their argument hinges on the belief — apparently shared to an extent by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Turkish government — that the United States and NATO played a role in the unsuccessful coup attempt July 15. Minister of Justice Bekir Bozdag, who heads for Washington soon to try to negotiate the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, the Pennsylvania-based Turkish cleric accused of masterminding the coup, has laid Turkey's position on the line.
"The US knows Fethullah Gulen carried out this coup. Mr. Obama knows this just as he knows his own name. I am convinced that American intelligence knows it, too. I am convinced the State Department knows it. … Other countries know it, too, because every country has an intelligence agency," Bozdag insisted during a TV interview. Bozdag's remarks, which imply that Washington and NATO knew what was coming and did nothing, are being echoed by the pro-Erdogan Islamist media in Turkey, which is essentially anti-Western and sees NATO as the enemy of Islam…" More here link Amicalement Armand |
ITALWARS | 29 Jul 2016 3:55 a.m. PST |
why shoul they? Erdogan repressed a nationalistic coup…which , in case of success, would have resulted in that sort of things (National-independent states) which is the sort of things that Bruxessel and NATO see as a peril.. they will continue to stage just a low intensity and just token war on radical islamism plus using immigrants like marchandise..that is what NATO wants they will continue to treathen Russia while she fight terrs in Syria. They will continue to trheat Israel without any interference by NATO so why loosing such a still precious ally |
daler240D | 29 Jul 2016 3:56 a.m. PST |
They are too afraid of Russia to go it alone. They are just seeing what they can get away with in these times with the refugee crisis and the syrian war. They think they are in a strong bargaining position. |
PMC317 | 29 Jul 2016 4:38 a.m. PST |
They bloody well should be; they should have been chucked out after 1974 and their invasion of Cyprus. Given everything they've done since then and now under their new Sultan Erdogan, Turkey absolutely should be expelled. |
Patrick R | 29 Jul 2016 5:49 a.m. PST |
Expel them and Ergodan closes the valve on 30% of Europe's gas and oil supply, steeples his fingers and waits with a big smug smile on his face. |
Rod I Robertson | 29 Jul 2016 6:10 a.m. PST |
No, I doubt that NATO would willingly cut off its second largest (albeit hobbled and heeled) military because of Erdogan's excesses to date. However Turkish membership in the EU is rapidly becoming a forlorn hope, I think. It will be interesting to see what develops around Incirlik Airbase as that may hold the key to NATO's continued cooperation with Turkey. I don't know if the fifty or so nuclear weapons which were believed to be stored there in years gone by are still in situ, but if so the siege of Incirlik by Turkish forces takes on a much more sinister dimension and an escalation in the siege could threaten the unity of NATO. If it's just an attempt to bully the US to hand over the former politician and charismatic Gullen then it is a manageable crisis. If it develops into nuclear hostage-taking then all bets are off. Either way the world and especially Russia and China are watching developments with keen interest and weighing their options and opportunities in the wake of the coup's failure. Cheers. Rod Robertson. |
cwlinsj | 29 Jul 2016 8:53 a.m. PST |
Turkey likes American weapons. Erdogan will at least pretend to cooperate with NATO. In addition to blocking Russia's south and being the oil conduit, Turkey can open the gates to jihaddists going into the Middle East as well as the ones allowing refugees to pour into Europe if they get upset. Europe will "tsk tsk", but continue to suck up to Erdogan. |
Legion 4 | 29 Jul 2016 9:03 a.m. PST |
The Turks will remain a part of NATO for all the reasons mentioned here and others. Even if they move towards being more islamic and less secular. Realpolitik/geopolitics is sometimes a bit grey … |
Mako11 | 29 Jul 2016 9:08 a.m. PST |
That military has now been decapitated, so is only good for putting down internal riots. They'd be wiped out on the battlefield if they went to war, since there is no leadership left. Yep, should have been expelled long ago, but especially after this. The delusional guy in power can't blame himself. The nukes are still there, and need to be removed immediately. My guess is if Turkey gets kicked out, which I doubt will happen, they'll flood Europe with refugees, unless a new border fence is built. |
Tango01 | 29 Jul 2016 11:24 a.m. PST |
"That military has now been decapitated…" I'm still not clear what those "decapitated" want…!. Anyone can enlight me?. I'm speaking about ISIS and similar Scum… Amicalement Armand |
piper909 | 29 Jul 2016 2:08 p.m. PST |
On to Constantinople and the resurrection of the Megali Idea! |