Flashman14 | 21 Jul 2016 3:15 p.m. PST |
Last week I asked which were the best novels from the major conflicts seen in wargaming. WW2 suprised me in how few titles there were to choose from. Most does not equal best of course. So, the question remains: what (historical) martial conflict spawned the best literature? |
Sundance | 21 Jul 2016 3:25 p.m. PST |
Napoleonic Wars. War & Peace, Les Miserables, and I know there are a couple more I'm forgetting. It also inspired the 1812 Overture and at least one of Beethoven's symphonies. |
(Leftee) | 21 Jul 2016 3:34 p.m. PST |
|
Weasel | 21 Jul 2016 3:43 p.m. PST |
Alistair McLean or whatever his name was seems to have held up ww2 writing pretty well on his own :) |
robert piepenbrink | 21 Jul 2016 3:44 p.m. PST |
"Wellington's Victory"--but the man did say literature. And is Jane Austen's Persuasion literature from the Napoleonic Wars? (I say yes.) I'd also say for literature, it's probably in order --WWII --ACW (GWTW, Red Badge of Courage, John Brown's Body) --Napoleonic Wars --(Tie) Trojan War and Russian Civil War. But it's worth keeping in mind that it isn't all written yet, and just asking the question in English distorts the answer. Too many books not translated, not translated well, or not well enough known. Oh. And there are only a few best of anything. That's part of the definition. |
Leadjunky | 21 Jul 2016 3:48 p.m. PST |
|
Frederick | 21 Jul 2016 4:07 p.m. PST |
Hmmm Best is not most I think Napoleonic Wars or WWI have some pretty good work – but my choice would be WWII |
Gunfreak | 21 Jul 2016 4:24 p.m. PST |
1990s gangster rap battles. |
BW1959 | 21 Jul 2016 6:04 p.m. PST |
ACW – You have, Red Badge of Courage, Killer Angles, & Cain at Gettysburg. |
corona66 | 21 Jul 2016 6:51 p.m. PST |
Another vote for the ACW. And it also had many literate soldiers who wrote powerful letters and reports. |
Kevin C | 21 Jul 2016 10:21 p.m. PST |
What about the Siege of Troy or the Crusades? |
emckinney | 21 Jul 2016 10:38 p.m. PST |
Jane Austen and many of the women writers were the product of a society with a shortage of (marriagable) men whether from death, absence, or incapacitating wounds. It's a reasonable proposition that the Napoleonic Wars caused the emergence of the female author in English society. |
daler240D | 22 Jul 2016 2:27 a.m. PST |
Kevin C has it right. The Trojan War. |
Grelber | 22 Jul 2016 4:53 a.m. PST |
A significant amount of American WWI and WWII literature is set outside the combat zones. WWI What Price Glory? WWII South Pacific Mr. Roberts Stalag 17 For the British, Pat Reid's Colditz stories are among the century's greatest adventure stories. Grelber |
Atomic Floozy | 22 Jul 2016 6:34 a.m. PST |
"Best Literature" is very subjective. Personally, I would have to also go with the Trojan War. The Iliad is the only "war spawned" book I've read more than twice. |
thorr666 | 22 Jul 2016 11:07 a.m. PST |
|
miniMo | 22 Jul 2016 11:16 a.m. PST |
The Great Revolt 1173–1174, spawned by Eleanor and Henry's marital conflicts. Elizabeth Chadwick, The Greatest Knight is one of my favorites of the historical fiction in the Angevin genre. link |
jowady | 22 Jul 2016 5:01 p.m. PST |
Well The Hundred Years War inspired 4 Shakespearean plays as did The Wars of the Roses. The Roman Civil Wars that began with Julius Caesar inspired 2. The Napoleonic Wars, especially if you include the French Revolution undoubtedly inspired the most literary works, and musically operas and symphonies (but please don't include "Wellington's Victory", it's as horrible a piece of musical deck as ever written). |
ACWBill | 22 Jul 2016 6:41 p.m. PST |
The Great War was the root of the entire "lost generation" of artist and writers. |
Inkpaduta | 23 Jul 2016 10:53 a.m. PST |
Either Trojan War or Napoleonic. |
Ottoathome | 25 Jul 2016 4:25 a.m. PST |
Most of the stuff you guys have listed is either bad (historical novels) or little read today, or is the "Harlequen Romance" counterpart for the historical buff crowd. Thucydides, "The Peloponnesian War" is still read today and prescribed in many college courses in both literature and history. You could teach a whole course on international Relations using just that one text. All the arguments are there, all the examples of nationals strategies are there, all the issues. It's timeliness is proved by two simple quotes. One is spoken by the Athenian Ambassadors…."Do not be hasty in involving yourself in the affairs of others. Consider while there is still time the inscrutable nature of war, and how, when prolonged, it often ends in a matter of mere chance." The other is spoken by one of the Spartan Ephors in their debates. In typical Laconic style… "War is not an affair of arms, but of money." That's it, that's the best. All the rest are nice for stroking yourself by, but if you want both real insight and great literature, go right back to Thucydides. |
Old Contemptibles | 25 Jul 2016 8:22 a.m. PST |
|