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otherone19 Jul 2016 3:41 p.m. PST

hi guys.
what is the practice of quartering infantry coats into opposing colors called? Where was it practiced?

Thanks,
Rob

Winston Smith19 Jul 2016 8:28 p.m. PST

For one thing they are not "uniforms". That implies that everyone dressed the same.

And quartering is called quartering.

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2016 11:01 p.m. PST

Most fighters simply wore whatever clothes they had in which to fight. Most knights had their own heraldry and therefore, their own outfit. most fighters held their allegiance to a particular lord (and therefore to the king). Quartering is part of heraldry. Sometimes it was simply a color choice since so many were taken. Often, when a powerful family married another very powerful family, their arms (as in coat of arms / heraldry) would be combined, leading to halving and quartering.
If you want a more " uniform" look, you can pretend your noble liked that look and wanted his men at arms wearing something (tabard maybe) in his colors. Hope that helps.

GurKhan20 Jul 2016 2:17 a.m. PST

Umm. Do you actually mean quartering? It seems to have been much commoner for an infantryman's surcoat or livery jacket to be divided vertically into halves of two colours. This is sometimes called "mi-parti" division – have a look at link (though many of the examples linked to are non-military).

Mi-parti jackets are known in England, France, Flanders among the militias raised by the city guilds, Switzerland using canton colours, German city militias (in the later 15th century at least), and Burgundy (Charles the Bold's blue-and-white livery is one of the most famous).

otherone20 Jul 2016 4:47 a.m. PST

Thanks gentlemen! The term that I was looking for is "parti-colored" You guys are the best.

waaslandwarrior20 Jul 2016 11:07 a.m. PST

I could be wrong, but I tought quartering was a way of killing a convict.
You know, tie a horse on each arm and leg and let them run!

Great War Ace20 Jul 2016 11:11 a.m. PST

The English did it with a bloody huge AX and repeated blows….

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2016 12:33 p.m. PST

Incidentally, at least in the English army the quartered surcoat, or jacket was called Livery, this would often have a Badge on it (Hence the term Badge and Livery)

MajorB20 Jul 2016 2:19 p.m. PST

You know, tie a horse on each arm and leg and let them run!

That's not quartering, that's just ripping a body apart.

The barbaric execution method known as "hanging, drawing and quartering" culminated with the already dead body being cut into quarters with each quarter being posted for display ina different part of teh country.

MajorB20 Jul 2016 2:21 p.m. PST

Hence the term Badge and Livery

I have never heard of the term "Badge and Livery" before. I have heard of "Livery and Maintenance" but that is not the same thing.

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