Dennis0302 | 13 Jul 2016 4:56 p.m. PST |
Looking for a skirmish rules to go with the FNG figures I want to get from Age of Glory. Can anyone suggest any? Looking for 1:1. Thanks for the help. |
Irish Marine | 13 Jul 2016 5:17 p.m. PST |
Try the old battleground WWII rules, they were written for 28mm and the same weapons were used for the period. |
Generalstoner49 | 13 Jul 2016 5:58 p.m. PST |
Ambush Valley from Force on Force. |
Extra Crispy | 13 Jul 2016 6:42 p.m. PST |
FNG from 2 Hour Wargames. Excellent rules. Easy enough to adapt to the earlier period… |
jdginaz | 13 Jul 2016 7:47 p.m. PST |
chain of Command will work very well for Indo China |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 13 Jul 2016 8:47 p.m. PST |
Striker (GDW 1983) models Traveller tech level 5-6 very well. You can even design your vehicles, heavy weapons, and artillery using real-world data. |
Vigilant | 14 Jul 2016 2:33 a.m. PST |
Combat Patrol for me. Also worth looking at Skirmish Campaign's Hamburger Hill scenario book and converting some of the actions to the earlier period. |
boggler | 14 Jul 2016 6:09 a.m. PST |
How about the Five Core skirmish rules: link Perfect for low level, guerrilla warfare squad level skirmish (5-15 figures a side) |
Buckeye AKA Darryl | 14 Jul 2016 6:39 a.m. PST |
Striker? Interesting suggestion, although I have found the rules to be almost unplayable due to their level of detail. Again, that was using high tech troops, might work well with TL5-6. Ambush Valley is for the American period in Indochina, but I would think some of the ideas given for troop ratings, weapons, etc., could be used for the French period. I am going to try FNG with Garryowen in a couple of weeks and am excited to see how they play. |
Mako11 | 14 Jul 2016 8:37 a.m. PST |
I can't see Striker as "playable", no matter what tech level you choose. A pity, since I wanted them to be, back in the day. FUBAR is a free set of rules, and there's a Vietnam supplement to go with them, for more details and added flavor/weaponry. Recommended, and you can't beat the price. Check the message archives here on TMP for more info. |
Rick Don Burnette | 14 Jul 2016 8:56 a.m. PST |
As anyone who has read Bernard Fall knows, the First Indochina War had the French at a huge battlefield disadvantage, being unable to locate the Viets until they revealed themselves. Thus GM 100 and the failure of the de Lattre line. The only way to game jungle warfare, indeed most warfare, is umpired and double blind, which goes against traditional miniatures |
Jcfrog | 14 Jul 2016 11:00 a.m. PST |
More ww2 like than nam or modern. Very rigid viet tactics etc. ( no coms) You have two wars: north a nearly conventional one between batallions and " divisions" a bit like Burmah with little air support( @ 200 planes for the whole Indochina peninsula?) South only guerilla with more ramshackle stuff on both side. In low level skirmish, this is far more adapted. Actually with the French side can also be in scenarios as guerilla in GCMA or Vandenberghe montagnards units etc. fOF might not be best fir it as it assumes too much control due to modern coms. iABSM is more the thing. Or COC for even lower level. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 15 Jul 2016 2:01 a.m. PST |
I'm surprised to hear Striker described as unplayable. My group has had few year-long striker campaigns at various tech levels (none lower than 7-8). |
Thomas Nissvik | 01 Aug 2016 6:18 a.m. PST |
We play a modified version of Chain of Command from TooFatLardies. Once the mods are finished they will be released as an official suppement. A report on my blog here: link |
Virginia Tory | 23 Sep 2016 11:03 a.m. PST |
I use modified Bolt Action. Seems to work well. And I have used Vietminh hidden movement. Really puts the brakes on reckless players! |
Joe Legan | 25 Sep 2016 7:51 p.m. PST |
Force on Force with activation from Combat Patrol. AAR here 2 down: platoonforward.blogspot.com Joe PS Tom, ordered the book you recommended today off E-bay. |
Thomas Nissvik | 26 Sep 2016 2:57 a.m. PST |
Excellent, Joe. You will not be disappointed. A very good read. |
Virginia Tory | 26 Sep 2016 10:25 a.m. PST |
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Thomas Nissvik | 27 Sep 2016 2:02 p.m. PST |
Embers of War by Logevall. I think we have talked about it before but if not:get it and read it. |
Virginia Tory | 28 Sep 2016 7:28 a.m. PST |
Ah, I have that one. Pretty good, though the author seems confused about Ho Chi Minh and whether he's a communist or not. The Last Valley by Martin Windrow is also outstanding (covers Dien Bien Phu, but has some nice background on previous campaigns, army composition, problems, etc) |
Joe Legan | 28 Sep 2016 2:15 p.m. PST |
VT, In my limited reading that was one of the errors the US made; seeing him as a communist. It appears he was a nationalist and found communism a convenient way to achieve his goal. Joe |
Virginia Tory | 29 Sep 2016 7:44 a.m. PST |
"It appears he was a nationalist and found communism a convenient way to achieve his goal." I think he was very much a communist. His and the Party's actions make that very clear (Logevall actually describes much of that, as does Mark Moyar in his books). Nationalism was certainly a part of that--expulsion of the French was certainly a popular goal and a lot of non-communists went along with it. |
Joe Legan | 30 Sep 2016 6:33 a.m. PST |
VT, You are certainly more well read on the subject than I. I am just starting. My opinion is based on my reading. He was certainly willing to work with the west to set up an independent Vietnam both in the 1920s and after WWII. I read he even asked the US to be a protectorate like the Philipines. He thought Communism was the best form of government but Nationalism was the key for him. I haven't read the authors you have mentioned yet so am open. ( Have ordered the Logevall book.) Thanks Joe BTW Anyone have a VM with a bazooka in 15mm? Eureka makes a nice one but will charge me $6 USD for postage. |
Virginia Tory | 05 Oct 2016 6:34 a.m. PST |
>BTW Anyone have a VM with a bazooka in 15mm? All mine are 28mm…sorry! And the bazooka teams are only just coming out for Fall In, from what I understand. Uncle Ho is a fascinating figure, but it seems clear to me that during his formative years he embraced communism--perhaps understandable given the Great Powers' treatment of colonies and the appeal that marxism had back then before people really understood how bad it could be. |