Coelacanth | 12 Jul 2016 5:48 a.m. PST |
Okay, Game of Thrones has ended for the season, so how to get a good fantasy "fix"? High marks for clever intrigue, memorable characters, and evocative worldbuilding. Low marks for excessively long series, or ones at present unfinished. Also, "dark" and "gritty" are seasonings, not meat. Ron |
timurilank | 12 Jul 2016 5:58 a.m. PST |
I would recommend the Witcher series by Andrzej Sapkowski. Six of the seven books have been translated to English and Lady of the Lake should be ready early next year. The audio books are great. |
KTravlos | 12 Jul 2016 6:16 a.m. PST |
The Riftwar Saga and the Deamonwar Saga by Raymond Feist The Iron Throne ( link ) |
Rapier Miniatures | 12 Jul 2016 6:25 a.m. PST |
So low marks for Game of Thrones then. |
boy wundyr x | 12 Jul 2016 6:37 a.m. PST |
Joe Abercrombie – First Law trilogy or the one-offs. I'm not too familiar with his latest series, the "Half A…" ones, only seen them on shelves. |
SBminisguy | 12 Jul 2016 7:14 a.m. PST |
Second Joe Abercrombie, great, gritty fantasy series! And don't forget the master of dark fantasy, Glen Cook, and his Black Company series. link |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 12 Jul 2016 7:26 a.m. PST |
Second Feist,but not exactly "gritty",if you mean lotta trailer trash cussin' an' incest. |
robert piepenbrink | 12 Jul 2016 7:46 a.m. PST |
"The Religion" on the Siege of Malta. No magic, but lots of late-medieval blood & gore, plotting and sex. If you can deal with Jacobean language, there's ER Eddison's Worm Ouroboros and Zimmiamvian Trilogy . Stephan Brust gets at least an honorable mention. Or lose the "novel" requirement and go for the original 17 Robert E. Howard Conan stories. Of course, for the whole package--sex, magic, scheming and violence--rent a couple different productions of MacBeth. |
boy wundyr x | 12 Jul 2016 7:58 a.m. PST |
On the Howard front, his historical fiction, sometimes bundled as his "Oriental" stories, in the old sense of the word, they're set in the Middle East. The latest incarnation of the bundle includes his stories with female leads – link |
darthfozzywig | 12 Jul 2016 8:00 a.m. PST |
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dampfpanzerwagon | 12 Jul 2016 8:18 a.m. PST |
"Joe Abercrombie – First Law trilogy or the one-offs." I can also recommend the Half a …….. series, I finished book one earlier in the year and have book two and book three waiting for the darker nights to come. Tony |
Dave Jackson | 12 Jul 2016 8:52 a.m. PST |
Malazan Empire series, from Steven Erikson. Fabulous (10 books, plus some 7 from his writing partner, Ian C. Esslemont) |
Huscarle | 12 Jul 2016 9:24 a.m. PST |
Karl Edward Wagner's "Kane" series Paul Edwin Zimmer's "Borderlands" series. Dave Duncan's "The Kings Blade" David Gemmell "Drenai" books Simon Green "Hawk & Fisher" Katharine Kerr "Deverry" series Fritz Leiber "Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser" series Michael Stackpole's "Dragoncrown" cycle David Weber's "Oath of Swords" trilogy May I also suggest an excellent 16th Century historical series, Dorothy Dunnett's "Lymond" series (6 novels) |
JimSelzer | 12 Jul 2016 10:02 a.m. PST |
Camber of Culdi and the rest of Deryni series by Katherine Kurtz |
Henrix | 12 Jul 2016 11:03 a.m. PST |
Many good recommendations above. There is some really good hard boiled fantasy these days, like GoT. Abercrombie is a good example, as is Erikson, but for intrigues I'd go with: The Prince of Thorns series by Stephen Lawrence. Dark grim fantasy about an estranged and embittered prince. Excellent stuff. R. Scott Bakker's The Darkness That Comes Before is another great grim series. A crusade, and a may be prophet. |
Herkybird | 12 Jul 2016 11:48 a.m. PST |
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Winston Smith | 12 Jul 2016 12:03 p.m. PST |
Have you no confidence that The Winds of Winter will be out soon? |
Winston Smith | 12 Jul 2016 12:09 p.m. PST |
Lacking that I will reread The Lord of the Rings. I would rather read the "original" than copy cats with more sex added. There is always Garrett too. Fun reads, with no real story arc beyond Glory Mooncalled getting closer. Can be read on no particular order, though purists might disagree. Dresden Files seem to be spinning its wheels telling the same story over and over. But that can be said about Sharpe too. |
Red3584 | 12 Jul 2016 12:31 p.m. PST |
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch…and the rest of the Gentleman Bastards series….highly recommended. |
Red3584 | 12 Jul 2016 12:43 p.m. PST |
…and the Joe Abecrombie books I'd also highly recommend the Ben Aaronovitch books beginning with the Riverside of London and Charles Stross' Laundry books. |
VVV reply | 12 Jul 2016 2:09 p.m. PST |
Lord of the Rings. A cracking read, unlike Game of Thrones. |
The Beast Rampant | 12 Jul 2016 2:44 p.m. PST |
Have you no confidence that The Winds of Winter will be out soon? So far, that's going about as well as my dual "Lotto Jackpot / Long-Lost Rich Uncle's Will" retirement plans. Lord of the Rings. A cracking read, unlike Game of Thrones. Who here hasn't read LotR multiple times? |
VVV reply | 12 Jul 2016 3:13 p.m. PST |
Oh and another good fantasy writer. David Gemmell. Lots of choice although no dragons that I can remember. |
jowady | 12 Jul 2016 3:14 p.m. PST |
Mary Stewart's Merlin/King Arthur Series. Four Books, The Crystal Cave The Hollow Hills The Last Enchantment The Wicked Day There is a 5th Book that is peripheral to Arthur's Story, "The Prince and the Pilgrim". The four core books take you from Merlin's childhood and the reign of Vortigern through the Final Battle at Camlann. And while not fantasy, Dumas' entire "D'Artagnan series is terrific. Who here hasn't read LotR multiple times?
Me, I've never read a word nor have I ever watched the movies. |
glenkk | 12 Jul 2016 3:19 p.m. PST |
horseclans by Robert Adams.set in a North America that had been thrown back to a medieval level by a full-scale nuclear war. |
Rapier Miniatures | 12 Jul 2016 3:19 p.m. PST |
maurice drouet, the accursed Kings series, the books GRRM wanted to emulate. Historical rather than Fantasy and even more fun for that (these insane monarchs were all real!) for that. |
darthfozzywig | 12 Jul 2016 4:04 p.m. PST |
Have you no confidence that The Winds of Winter will be out soon?
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saltflats1929 | 12 Jul 2016 5:47 p.m. PST |
Harry Sidebottom's "Warrior of Rome" series. |
Dentatus | 12 Jul 2016 6:04 p.m. PST |
Another for Joe Abercrombie, esp the First Law trilogy and the follow up 'The Heroes.' |
robert piepenbrink | 12 Jul 2016 7:43 p.m. PST |
As regards Winds of Winter, I look at Martin, I look at me, and I check publication frequency. Odds are too good that one or the other of us will die before he finishes. If you like stories no one ever finished, try the "Morigu" trilogy (two volumes) the "Spiral Dance" series (one volume) and--in SF--the five-volume Antony di Villiers set (three volumes.) |
M C MonkeyDew | 12 Jul 2016 9:08 p.m. PST |
Wiiliam King's Kormak series features a hero tasked with tracking down rogue wizards and vaguely demonic creatures. Very goid stuff. |
steam flunky | 12 Jul 2016 11:47 p.m. PST |
If you are looking for some great fantasy books with original ideas that are not a LOTR copies try out Anne Mccaffreys Dragonriders of Pern series. These seem to be slowly getting forgotten although i believe a film is being talked about. I read the first 5 books as a teenager and re-read them last year at 49. They are still as good. Read them in the order they were written starting with Dragonflight. My other recommendation does not really fit in here. Duncton Wood is fantasy as it is a story about moles in a mole colony, but if you want a good read this summer this is it. I also read it then and now again and it is still one of the top 5 books i have ever read, up there with Tolkien and Frank Herberts Dune. Most of the authors mentioned in this thread get 60% or 70% 5-star reviews on amazon, this book gets 89%. link |
dilettante | 13 Jul 2016 3:12 p.m. PST |
The First 5 Dragonrider books* are VERY good The next two or three are good. Nerilka's Story is very good but read Moreta: first. I have no idea if Todd McCaffrey's Dragonrider books are any good. . *Dragonflight Dragonquest Dragonsong Dragonsinger The White Dragon |
dilettante | 13 Jul 2016 3:13 p.m. PST |
I wouldn't call them gritty in the GoT sense tho. |
kabrank | 14 Jul 2016 8:12 a.m. PST |
Another Vote for Abercrombie. "Heroes" just cries out to be gamed |
Goonfighter | 14 Jul 2016 12:37 p.m. PST |
"A song for Arbonne" by Guy Gavriel Kay. No dragons just lots of plotting humans. |