"Do you have a unit that is always victorious?" Topic

Building off an early question about units that you have that have never won. Do you have a unit that has never been beaten?

Always? I would be happy with once in a while

They are always moral victories!

This is a joke, right?

A friend did, but it was conditional. The unit/figure is a priest, in battle games the peasant mob with him in it would win as long as they did not attack. In defense what ever improbable die rolls needed to be rolled by attacker and defender invariably happened to make them victorious. It also did not seem to matter who was actually running the figs at the time. On the attack the opposite was true.

No – any suggestions how to obtain one would be welcome!

My 15mm Vistula Legion only failed me once in all it's storied history (going back to the 80s). Of course, they only play once a year or so.

When I played a lot of Warhammer Ancients I seemed to have a couple of units that always gave a good account regardless if i won or lost the battle.

One was my thirty man unit of Spartans who took it to the enemy each and every time and would normally survive to the end of the game or die to the last man without ever blowing a leadership test.

Another unit was a unit of Pike men for my Holy Roman Empire army. These guys just always seemed to hold their own no matter what.

Win for the Spartans.Go Leonidas go!

Any more Epic units?

No. When horse and musket units do exceptionally well during a battle I add finials to their colors. But that's one game at a time.

Even superman has kryptonite- otherwise there is no story, no game. Not my unit but in Warhammer someone had a formation of Brettonian Knights used in some attack column formation, that we thought was trresistable- bordering on not fun to play against.
We play Romans vs. Gaul and the host provides all units as 4 stands, except the first cohort, 8 stands. He also allows Romans to throw pilums, that and they are usually more heavily armed than the Gauls, makes them a unit that could always win.
If I am playing the Gauls, I make it my personal mission to break the first cohort. So that even if I lose- I feel I win a moral victory.

More important, I had a unit that should not have won. Had a Spanish cavalry unit that charged one French cav regiment, went heroic and won. Then charged another French cav regiment and won. At half strength it charged a third French cav regiment and WON. At 20% strength it rode off the battlefield with flags waving.

The double strength first cohort in a Roman Legion is something I do not use. The legion had many support units and they were grouped under the first cohort. The baggage guard may exist but it would not take to the field (who guards the camp and baggage during a battle). My first cohort (in my 15mm and 25mm imperial legions) are the same size as the other cohorts.

I have had French Imperial guard beaten by Prussian landwehr…That was a hard loss to take, until that game they were unbeaten. They went about a year as the bad boys of the game table, after that they were never the same.

I have a squad of 28mm American infantry squad for Bolt Action with their bayonets attached that always find themselves in close combat/assault. They haven't won all of their fights, but just about. Which considering the kind of enemy units I have them attack and the fact they assault every game really bucks the odds.

Also, in Dust Warfare/Battlefield I don't think my Allied Hero Johnny One-Eye has ever been killed. A model I field quite a bit. In fact, one particularly brutal game, Johnny was the sole survivor of my entire force (about 30 men and 5 walking tanks) with only a single hit point when I decided maybe retreating is a good option.

Napoleonics, the 15th Hussars. After a while my friends began to get superstitious and not challenge them.

No, but I've been seeing people playing miniatures games set in 19th Century China, so if I were going to play those games, I would have to call my force The Ever Victorious Army.

hmm, everything gets beaten eventually, but I do have a Gigantic Spider called Lloth in my fantasy collection who I've only had for a couple of years but has so far been invincible- in one game she tore a pair of Daemon Prince type chaps to bits, and scared a third into running away (he didn't make it…) before following up into the horde of Minotaurs behind, who had themselves been regarded as the toughest unit on the table, though not after she'd finshed with them. I think the first DP managed to get a couple of hits in, but nobody else did.

The higher my expectations about a unit's performance the lower the result:-(
However I had a batalion of British Napoleonic foot guard which often got excellent reults!
Marco

Until Tuesday, both Laura Kraft and Asiago Jones (Reaper Mousling pulp adventurers) had never lost. But they (and many other pulp hero) types are used in scenarios that are designed for the hero to win. The drama comes in the form of how well will the hero win – how much treasure will be recovered? how many civilians can you protect from the curse? can you destroy the death ray or also the plans, equipment, and kidnap the engineer?

Tuesday, SWMBO and I faced off with these two in a competitive grab as much treasure as you can scenario. It was a draw. So either both are still all-victorious or both have lost one.

I don't track which sets of bug hunters have lost, so there might be one or two. It's different from the always lose thread because there I have one unit of bugs that I know have never won.

DOM has never lost a MechWarrior game using Steel Wolves (in fact, she won her dear old dad an Aurora class dropship in a tourney ten or so years ago) … does that count?

I have a lot of units that have often been on the verge of victory until they encountered my dice rolling. :)

Way back, in 40K, I had an imperial guard sniper that never ever died.

He was an abysmal shot, rarely ever killing anything and when he did, they passed their Pinning test in any event, but anytime an enemy took a shot at him, he managed to somehow survive it.

Well, that brought up a chuckle.