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Theophanes07 Jul 2016 9:50 a.m. PST

Hi, Gentlemen:

How can I play the Greek and Spartan Haamipoi in WAB?

Thanks a lot!

Pictors Studio07 Jul 2016 12:02 p.m. PST

Just add skirmishers to cavalry units. Have the cavalry move 1" slower, so something like 5" instead of 6" so they run/march 10" instead of 12" and then treat them like riders that can leave the cavalry.

I usually don't allow them to drop the hamipoi off and then pick them back up. Once deployed they are stuck.

Theophanes08 Jul 2016 12:06 a.m. PST

Sounds good!

When can the hamipoi dismount? Can they do it after a charge movement?

Can they fight in a combat without dismount?

Thank you!

Pictors Studio08 Jul 2016 5:18 a.m. PST

Until they dismount they count as giving the cavalry +1 attack at base strength. They can dismount as part of any movement.

andyfb08 Jul 2016 8:49 p.m. PST

Historically, I was under the impression that the greek hamippoi were hanging onto the horse by the mane and tail, which seems like it would slow the horses down a bit. In the ultimate source of knowledge about ancient warfare – the Osprey series – there is a picture of a hamippos hanging onto a horse's tail (Elite Series 7 – The Ancient Greeks, plate K)

Found the above on a DBX forum, as you can tell, they didn't actually dismount, but if that is how the rules (WAB) could use them, that's ok.

They would accompany either Med cav or Hvy cav, not light horse as they moved too quick for the inf to keep up.

Also the Mc or Hc maybe only likely to move at the speed of the Skirmishers?

Pictors Studio08 Jul 2016 10:37 p.m. PST

From what I've read the skirmishers moved with the speed of the horse, kind of holding on and keeping their balance so they were probably moving faster than they could themselves. That being said even medium or heavy Greek cavalry (such as it was) didn't have the biggest horses in history so they must have slowed them down considerably.

But it isn't like we have any numbers on any of this stuff so we have to make do with speculation.

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