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Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2016 12:53 p.m. PST

GREAT article --- he was on the Somme.link

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tkdguy03 Jul 2016 2:14 p.m. PST

Interesting article. Thanks for sharing!

charared03 Jul 2016 2:14 p.m. PST

Nice find. Thanks!!!

Onomarchos03 Jul 2016 3:46 p.m. PST

Yes, thanks so much for sharing. I had no idea that J.R.R.T was an officer during WWI.

Mark

Hafen von Schlockenberg03 Jul 2016 6:53 p.m. PST

There's a very good,deeply researched book on the subject from a dozen years ago:

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I don't yet have the newer book by the article's author.

Coelacanth193803 Jul 2016 7:46 p.m. PST

Gives me an idea for a fantasy campaign: there's a magical fantasy kingdom that's trapped inside a "time bubble" on a WWI battlefield. Nobody from the kingdom can leave without getting shot, bombed, or gassed. It would certainly fit in with some of the paranormal folklore I've read about.

Mithmee03 Jul 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

Well we are lucky that he did not need to go "Over the Top".

Because if he did we would not have either the Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings.

Hafen von Schlockenberg03 Jul 2016 9:35 p.m. PST

We are lucky.
But we also lost a great deal of poetry and literature from those who didn't come back,Tolkien's friends among them.

Read the book I referenced above,"Tolkien and the Great War" for a sense of how much.

Mithmee04 Jul 2016 8:40 a.m. PST

Well that what happens when you try and fight a 20 Century War with 19 Century tactics.

The generals back then were idiots. Plus they did not learn that frontal attacks were not working.

They just kept on throwing more men into the meat grinder.

Zargon04 Jul 2016 11:27 a.m. PST

Mithmee,yes those were different times and all sides were using war of attrition tactics and guess what, they learnt differing tactics for the next war, and the butchers bill was even higher in that one. The stupidness was everyman believing they were on the side of right. The folly killed many but gave us today the reality of war and such superb literature such as LOTRs. All loss is sad but all lessons learnt from such loss must be jealously guarded.
Lest we forget.

cmdr kevin04 Jul 2016 7:47 p.m. PST

Actually they were using 20th century tactics, they already had broken the army down into small independent units of no more than 10 men each. Each attack was a different mix of ideas; timing, artillery, weather, numbers, prep times etc. Because of the trenches every attack had to be a frontal assault, there were no flanks any more.

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