Tango01 | 28 Jun 2016 4:01 p.m. PST |
… In The Mediterranean "The US guided-missile destroyer Gravely breached international navigation safety rules by coming within dangerous proximity of the Yaroslav Mudry, a Russian frigate, in the eastern Mediterranean, the Russian Defense Ministry has said. The USS Gravely approached the Yaroslav Mudry, a Russian frigate, on June 17, passing across her course at a "dangerous" distance of 180 meters (55ft), the Defense Ministry said in a statement on Tuesday. The encounter occurred in international waters. The Yaroslav Mudry did not deviate from her course and refrained from engaging in dangerous maneuvering with the US warship, the ministry added…" From here link Amicalement Armand |
jfleisher | 28 Jun 2016 6:09 p.m. PST |
180 meters is ~590 feet but still very close… |
AUXILIAPAL | 28 Jun 2016 8:03 p.m. PST |
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AUXILIAPAL | 28 Jun 2016 8:05 p.m. PST |
After having seen the image, I think it's the other way round, 55 meters (180 ft)… |
Mako11 | 28 Jun 2016 8:53 p.m. PST |
Funny how they don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot…….. |
GarrisonMiniatures | 29 Jun 2016 2:11 a.m. PST |
Funny how it's OK when our guys do it but not when their's do… |
tberry7403 | 29 Jun 2016 5:41 a.m. PST |
While it's not "OK" it is done, frequently, by both sides. I saw it several times in the 70s. |
PVT641 | 29 Jun 2016 5:57 a.m. PST |
I recall a Soviet ship locking fire control on USS Nassau 1987/88. |
Private Matter | 29 Jun 2016 6:33 a.m. PST |
Wasn't the US destroyer keeping itself in between the Russian vessel and the USS Truman which was conducting flight operations against IS targets in Syria? Maybe I'm being paranoid but this type of action seems a bit more complex than being reported. |
Darkest Star Games | 29 Jun 2016 7:57 a.m. PST |
There's always more to the story, as this isn't just the equivalent of revving your engine at a stop light to challenge the car next to you to a drag race. Now, if there was as dozen sailors on the fan deck mooning the Ruskies, that'd be a different sort of story… |
Murvihill | 29 Jun 2016 8:27 a.m. PST |
Ships at sea have rules for situations when they meet. One vessel (IIRC it's the one on the right) is required to give way to the other vessel to prevent collision. During the Cold War the Soviet ship shadowing a NATO task force would maneuver itself to the port side of the task force, well forward then change it's course, putting itself in the stand-on position to disrupt the task force formation and flight ops. A game of chicken would ensue until one side or the other moved. It got so bad that there were dangerous incidents and an agreement was signed that both sides adhered to. link It's entirely possible the Russians have gone back to their old tricks… |
Ucalegos | 29 Jun 2016 8:34 a.m. PST |
It's entirely possible the US Vessel cut them up. |
Andy ONeill | 29 Jun 2016 9:14 a.m. PST |
A meter is 39 and a bit inches. Over 3 feet. |
Private Matter | 29 Jun 2016 10:48 a.m. PST |
Ucalegos – Disrupting combat flight operations of another navy's carrier is not a wise move no matter which side of the fence you sit. There's an old adage that goes something like : just because you can doesn't mean you should. |
Jemima Fawr | 29 Jun 2016 11:01 a.m. PST |
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Lion in the Stars | 30 Jun 2016 2:50 a.m. PST |
Video makes it look like 55m/180 feet. And that *is* dangerously close. The problem is that there's no way to tell from the video if the Russian ship maneuvered (gotta look back at the wakes). Anyone trying to get close to a carrier, particularly a freaking warship, is going to have "friends" showing up and getting in their way. It's what escorts are supposed to do. |
Mako11 | 30 Jun 2016 9:37 a.m. PST |
Yep, and the Russian Navy will lose against the American one. |