| Irish Marine | 27 Jun 2016 1:31 p.m. PST |
I know what USA and NATO had for field chow (MRE's and C-RATS); But what kind of chow did the other side have anything similar? |
| tmy 1939 | 27 Jun 2016 2:25 p.m. PST |
These articles on the changes caused by their war in Afghanistan should help answer your question. link link |
| nickinsomerset | 27 Jun 2016 2:26 p.m. PST |
I think it may have been centralised feeding, here bottom right is a cooks trailor:
[/URL] Tally Ho! |
| Kropotkin303 | 27 Jun 2016 3:09 p.m. PST |
Very interesting question considering the doctrine of fast advance and echelons. The maxim of 6 days to the Rhine raises the possiblity of an extremly long logistics tail that would have been hit hard by NATO. The other doctine of by-passing built up areas also leads to the realisation that cities were not to be entered lightly and so looted for food. So supplying your troops with food could be a seroius issue. Supply with ammo and POL as well perhaps. Nice links Tmy. |
| Cold Warrior | 27 Jun 2016 4:06 p.m. PST |
tmy, Good link, was just about to share it myself. |
 Legion 4  | 27 Jun 2016 4:12 p.m. PST |
So supplying your troops with food could be a seroius issue. Supply with ammo and POL as well perhaps. It is a serious issue. Water and ammo then POL, then food and medical, etc. … Been there … done that … You can last @ 10 days without chow. But you can't if you have no ammo. In places like Europe, there are running streams for water. Just use purification tablets. Plus there may be some abandoned villages, towns, etc., where food[and water] could be found. Regardless of doctrine. Plus based on the time of year farmers' fields, orchards, etc. … But hopefully it wouldn't ever get that bad.
Most modern armies have very detailed systems for resupply ops. From chow to nuts & bolts for your vehicles, etc., …
Modern MBTs without Ammo, POL and repair parts are just 60-70+ ton lawn ornaments. |
| GROSSMAN | 27 Jun 2016 8:04 p.m. PST |
Expired WW II tinned meat and saw dust bread. |
| Mako11 | 27 Jun 2016 8:12 p.m. PST |
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| Martin Rapier | 27 Jun 2016 11:08 p.m. PST |
Jeez guys, this stuff isn't hard to find out. They were exactly the same as western armies with ration packs made up of tinned and preserved food, supplemented by field kitchens.
Saw dust bread. Honestly.
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| Legion 4 | 28 Jun 2016 6:15 a.m. PST |
Yeah … but most Western Armies don't serve Borsht … Which is unfortunate as I like it !  |
| Jcfrog | 28 Jun 2016 6:47 a.m. PST |
Any BRD supermarket around might have helped increase the menu. And looting: all citizens were supposed to have several days of food in house in cans etc. |
| Rubber Suit Theatre | 28 Jun 2016 10:46 a.m. PST |
This stuff's not bad, actually. Goes well on toast, hard bread, or crackers. |
| gunnerphil | 28 Jun 2016 10:52 a.m. PST |
Found this list for daily issue in Afghanistan. Rye bread 500grams,
White bread 400 grams
Butter 30 grams
Sugar 65 grams
Potatoes 550 grams
Oatmeal 50 grams
Meat 200 grams
Fish canned 150 grams
Fat 35 grams
Milk 40 grams
Cabbage 120 grams
Eggs 2 If interested try to find Soviet Air land Battle Tactics by William Baxter. Cheap on Amazon. Has section dealing with logistics. |
| Legion 4 | 28 Jun 2016 2:06 p.m. PST |
35 grams of Fat … like butter ?  |
| gunnerphil | 28 Jun 2016 4:24 p.m. PST |
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| OGREAI | 28 Jun 2016 10:18 p.m. PST |
Not only tasty, nice dense calorie source |
| Mako11 | 29 Jun 2016 12:01 a.m. PST |
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| gunnerphil | 29 Jun 2016 2:31 a.m. PST |
Now who is complaining about MREs or Compo rations? |
| Legion 4 | 29 Jun 2016 8:35 a.m. PST |
Yeah ! Even C-Rats didn't have a can of pork fat ! |
| Crow Bait | 29 Jun 2016 1:28 p.m. PST |
They were communist. They ate live babies. Everybody who spent time on the Fulda Gap knew that. Oh, forgot to mention, they would have probably ate our lunch also, at least for the first couple of weeks. |
| Legion 4 | 30 Jun 2016 2:15 p.m. PST |
Well … yeah … there is that … |
| Barin1 | 01 Jul 2016 12:06 p.m. PST |
Don't recall having ever eating pork fat…I guess smth was lost in translation – we had canned meat, which, of course, had fat. Or canned meat with rice/buckwheat etc, bread or dry biscuits.
There were 3 types of food you could get:
- one at you deployment location, where your fellow cooks were trying to make smth out of scarce variety of food they had. (potatoes, vegetables a bit of meat and fish, bread, butter, sugar etc. It was eatable, but we prefererred other two types which were:
- cooked food during drills, etc, where field kitchen were used for heating of canned foot mostly – canned soups, canned meat and grain/groats, bread or сrackers.
If we were deployed sin remote location where you could not have hoped for field kitchen supplies, you were getting rations. Advantage of this was that you were getting exactly athe syiff you were supposed to receive – no disappearing meat or butter, etc.
Mmmm…eating a few NATO soldiers for dinner? don't know, Norwegians were the closest, but we were not that hungry to march a thousand miles…
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| Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2016 9:56 p.m. PST |
The fat is surely cooking lard or oil? |
| deflatermouse | 11 Jul 2016 2:40 a.m. PST |
In KOSB we got cans of pork fat. Or Bacon Grill as it was labelled. (HA. Nice try) Someone tried to call it pate.
For eating on your Biscuits, Brown.
I could swap one can for 4 packs of Biscuit, Brown and all the Oatmeal packs in someone else's pack.
But still no-one would give up their Garibaldis. |
| capncarp | 11 Jul 2016 8:49 p.m. PST |
"35 grams of Fat … like butter ?"
One book on the Soviet Army during the Great Patriotic War quoted a soldier commenting on his soup ration: "They put extra fat in the soup today. I guess we'll be going into action soon."
The whole fat thing goes right back to pemmican: pulverized dried meat mixed liberally with fat and dried berries. Protein, fats, carbs. Nutritionally balanced emergency rations. |
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