Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 6:11 a.m. PST |
Best guesses. Not who you would LIKE to see die, but those who you think the plot will carry off. Tommen the First of his Name Loras Tyrell High Sparrow All the above from Cersei's pyromania Melissandre Dolorous Edd (the Wall is going to collapse on him) Walder Frey, for insulting Jamie's honor Assorted Freys and Rivers Did Karstark survive? Not tonight Pycelle and Kevan, just because the show should do at least SOMETHING from the book. Maybe Qyburn does it. I expect a bloodbath. |
jowady | 26 Jun 2016 6:27 a.m. PST |
It's been a good season so far for the good guys except Hodor and Wun Wun that is. Jon and Sansa are fairly safe, as is just about everyone in Meereen. I'm guessing that Cersei will be condemned but not executed this season. Maegery and Tommen will find to their dismay that they are no longer King and Queen once Cersei is condemned (so Tommen gets the boot after collaborating with the High Septon). I figure the High Sparrow will claim the throne. So who dies? I agree with Kevan and maybe Pycelle, but they won't have much of an impact, they're tertiary characters at best. I figure that maybe Lancel gets it, perhaps as the Mountain helps Cersei flee. Something bad is about to happen in Freyland, maybe Jaime will go Medieval on their behinds. BTW, I am sick and tired of the Frey's stealing a great line from Godfather II, just for that I want to see them slaughtered. Maybe Melisandre gets it as well. Davos knows what she did and he's out for blood, and frankly she seems almost resigned to ending it all. I figure that Dany finally gets moving towards Westeros and if Euron shows up he gets it too (a few thousand Iron Born vs a Dothraki Khal and 3 Dragons, the Iron Fleet is going to experience it's own Midway. The Night King crosses the wall and that's bad news for The Night's Watch. Loras Tyrell could also be toast, yet another lesson for Maergery that she is playing way out of her league. So I'm guessing; Melisandre Loras Kevan Euron +some Freys, and the remainder's of Ramsay's Army, oh, and Ramsay's dogs, they die of indigestion. |
MajorB | 26 Jun 2016 6:28 a.m. PST |
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jowady | 26 Jun 2016 6:41 a.m. PST |
The truly bad thing is that after tonight we'll have to go a whole year when the only news about GoT and ASOIAF is that "we're waiting for the series" and, "sorry, book 6 has been delayed until after 2017" if it was really going to make it by the end of 2016 it would have to be on its way to the publishers around now. Really, with the series so far ahead and so different now from the books what exactly is GRRM's motivation to continue? He has more money than most, he lives in Santa Fe and he goes to these Cons and hob nobs with Emilia and Natalie and Sophie and Carice and Lena, I mean as they say, "it's nice work if you can get it". |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 26 Jun 2016 8:49 a.m. PST |
the series is'nt that far ahead as we've just seen scenes from book 4 I want to see Nymertia take Walder Frey by the throat and shake him to death. there are only going to be 12 more episodes so season 6 could see the wall coming down. |
jowady | 26 Jun 2016 9:21 a.m. PST |
the series is'nt that far ahead as we've just seen scenes from book 4 I beg to differ. Sansa and Jon have been reunited, Jon has been resurrected and Winterfell is in Stark Hands. Ramsay and Roose Bolton are both dead. Stannis has been defeated and killed. Littlefinger has come out of the shadows and openly declared a side with the Knights of the Vale. The Wildings are/will be Stark Bannermen. Rickon of course, who many of the book readers suspected would be Lord of Winterfell, is dead in the series, in hiding in the books. Those are all much further than Books 4/5 or what we have seen of Sansa's storyline in book 6. Dany is back in Meereen, Tyrion is with her rather than fooling around with whatever mercenary group (I've lost track of which is which) GRRM has him signing up with in Book 5. She also has her Dothraki Horde (Khal). She has won the War of Slaver's Bay and has already accepted the Fealty of Yara, Theon, and their supporters in the Iron Islands and has been warned of what Euron will do. Her Air Force (the Dragons) has given an example of just how fearsome fire is vs. Wooden Ships. She has everything in place for the move to Westeros. Again if you compare that to the situation in Book 5, where Tyrion and Jorah are signing up with a sell sword outfit, Dany is about to be captured on the Dothraki sea and Meereen is under siege you are looking at a very different situation. The White Walkers, Uncle Benjen (who GRRM has as being distinct from Coldhands and Bran are all on the move. As for the situation for the Lannisters, well, in the Books Cersei is still going to face trial by combat, in the series Tommen has removed that option and tonight she is liable, if actually tried, to be found guilty. And as such Tommen has turned on Cersei and unwittingly put his claim to the throne in danger. Loras will be on trial tonight, in the books he is still off stage, supposedly seriously wounded in the taking of a castle. Then there's the whole question of Dorne and what they're going to do. Doran, plotting an advancement in the books, is dead in the series. The Sand Snakes, again a major part of his plot in the books, are off stage after killing him and Areo Hotah and Prince Trystan and Princess Myrcella. Again that's very different from the books. Arya is a girl who has decided who she is and where she needs to be. Sansa gave up being Alayne last season. The Hound lives (I'm going to use that as a battlecry in one of my games, I swear it!) Toss in of course plot lines from the books that don't occur in the series, the whole False Aegon thing, the Tyrion/Penny stuff, Dany's marriage and Barristan the bold's situation as Hand of the Queen, Harry the Heir and all this junk about the Vale, Quentyn dying in Essos and I would submit that, while both are reportedly heading to the same destination they are taking very different routes. But yeah, I'd love to see Nymeria go all dire wolf on the Freys.
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Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 9:43 a.m. PST |
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Disco Joe | 26 Jun 2016 9:49 a.m. PST |
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The Beast Rampant | 26 Jun 2016 9:58 a.m. PST |
Episode ten traditionally just comes in and picks through the smoking wreckage of episode nine. I'm guessing this season will be different. But the flames aren't showing me much on this one. |
DontFearDareaper | 26 Jun 2016 10:49 a.m. PST |
I think one of the "surprise" reveals will be that Melisandre is the one secretly in league with the masters and the Sons of the Harpy. The other may well be Jon Snows true parentage. So Melisandre is high on my "who dies tonight" bingo card and I think it will be Grey Worm who kills her. Kevan and Tommen are doomed but they might not die tonight. Of course this could all be 3-eyed raven droppings, we will find out soon. |
Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 11:28 a.m. PST |
Melissandre is at Winterfell. Grey Worm is in Mereen. How are we going to do that? Or did you mean Kinvara? |
Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 11:29 a.m. PST |
Let me add Lancel Lannister to my list. |
Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 11:30 a.m. PST |
Book closes at 8:55 EST, by the way. |
Bashytubits | 26 Jun 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
Cersei loses it and the capital will burn. Little finger gets whacked, just because. The hound will go on a bandit murder spree. |
Goonfighter | 26 Jun 2016 12:34 p.m. PST |
Could get nasty for Brienne and Podrick? She has THE Lannister sword and isn't he a Payne? Could be ugly if they meet the wrong folk. The Freys are still alive in the books but I do agree that Jaime may settle them. After all, he killed the King to prevent wholesale slaughter, they are oathbreakers, simple as. We've seen Jon deliver justice on the mutineers and that's not in the books….. |
DontFearDareaper | 26 Jun 2016 2:19 p.m. PST |
ooops so many characters to keep track of, I meant the chick that is Dany's interpreter and Grey Worms quasi-girlfriend. Although Melisandre is probably on the "assuming room tempurature" watchlist now that Ser Davos knows what happened to his little princess. |
DontFearDareaper | 26 Jun 2016 2:57 p.m. PST |
I rarely agree with OFM (regardless of what handle he is using), but he is probably right on this one. Lancel may have been a knight at one time and his dad the hand of the king, but that won't save him if Cersei decides to sic zombie mountain on him. |
jowady | 26 Jun 2016 3:33 p.m. PST |
A major question for me is what will happen to Cersei. There seems to be a strong feeling here that she will burn King's Landing and kill thousands of innocent folks. Since Jaime just spent some time telling Edmure how much he loves her, will he kill her if she follows through and burns KL? After all, he killed his King to keep him from doing it. But he has attempted to kill (Bran) to protect her before. Will this be the overriding cliff hanger from this season? Or will the season end not with the burning but with Cersei buttoned up in the Red Keep under siege from the Faith. I'm voting against fire. And what exactly is Varys' secret mission, has he returned to King's Landing to kill Kevan and Pycelle a la the books? He wants to keep the chaos going but there is already plenty of chaos in Westeros (southern anyway). My final list (before the betting is closed); Dead; Melisandre (executed by Jon and Davos after what she did to Shireen) Loras (found guilty and executed by the Faith) Kevan (murdered by Varys or at his command) Pycelle (murdered by Varys or at his command) Walder Frey (killed by Jaime) |
Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 5:59 p.m. PST |
The betting line is CLOSED. |
Private Matter | 26 Jun 2016 7:12 p.m. PST |
Interesting turn of events. |
Winston Smith | 26 Jun 2016 7:23 p.m. PST |
I got six. And change. |
DontFearDareaper | 26 Jun 2016 7:41 p.m. PST |
Jowady was close. Picked 4 out of 5 although he was a tad off on the who killed em front. |
Patrick R | 27 Jun 2016 4:16 a.m. PST |
The question is how much will G's books differ from what we've seen in the show, but it has become more than obvious that GoT is not the incredible revolution in Fantasy that the fanboys have been ranting and raving about. If you start with a large enough ensemble cast, you can kill off as many as you like and still keep enough for a classic ending. LOTR had a problem with eagles, GoT has a problem with resurrection in that Jon dying was mostly Martin grabbing the bushes, shaking them, making ghostly noises and everyone going nuts. At this point I think Dany is going to meet the sharp end of Jon's sword as she ends up on the wrong side of crazy murderous tyranny (aka perfectly normal Targaryen behaviour) after the White Walkers and her dragons mutually wipe each other out. Though I suspect Jon won't live long after that bit. I simply don't see Danaerys on the throne, even if she has a rightful claim and all that crap, she's the balancing factor to restore the status quo in the story, not a main protagonist. Right now, my bet is that Sansa and Tyrion will end up sharing the Iron Throne, or even have a new throne installed, just to wash out the bad taste in the collective mouth. |