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Whirlwind20 Jun 2016 8:27 a.m. PST

I have just started reading Charlie Wesencraft's "Practical Wargaming" since it has now been released on Kindle link and I was wondering if it contained the first commercially published "big battle" rules? That is rules specifically designed to play big battles with relatively moderate numbers of figures and not using the "bath-tubbing" system favoured by Charles Grant et al.

Lt Col Pedant21 Jun 2016 2:01 a.m. PST

C19th Kriegspiel was probably the first recorded 'big battle' rule set.

arthur181521 Jun 2016 2:08 a.m. PST

It depends what you mean by 'big battle'.

The 1924 Kriegsspiel was designed for opposing forces of 'Brigade' strength – but a Prussian 'Brigade' was, effectively, a division. Kriegsspiel did not employ figures; a half-battalion troop block was the basic infantry piece, so there were relatively few pieces in play when compared to a traditional wargame with figures.

I suspect you may well be right, Whirlwind.

Whirlwind21 Jun 2016 2:43 a.m. PST

C19th Kriegspiel was probably the first recorded 'big battle' rule set.

It depends what you mean by 'big battle'.

Apologies – I was thinking of large corps/multi-corps or equivalent. Say 30,000 troops per side upwards, that kind of thing. Or to put it another way, the size of battle which Volley & Bayonet, Grande Armee, Polemos (big battle sets), Horse,Foot & Guns, PAddy Griffith's "Army-level game" et al deal with.

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