"Jedi Heresy" Topic

So if the force is hereditary (the force is strong in my family) – wouldn't it be counter productive to forbid Jedi to marry?
Kind of waters down the gene pool doesn't it?
Of course maybe that is why none of the new ones are as powerful as Yoda.

When Empire came out and we first met Yoda. I wondered why he hid out on a planet and didn't go out and try to stop Vader and the Emperor himself. Then after watching Episode I – III, I realized why. If I had lead the jedi to ruin and almost extinction, I'd go into hiding also. lol

Same old same old Harry Potter mumbojumbo.
Muggles are not worthy.

After all these years, you are expecting LOGIC out of Star Wars?

I was turned off when Michael Collins, excuse me, Qi Gon Whatever said he wasn't there to free slaves. At least Danaerys Targaryean can make that claim.

And to continue my rant….
Star Wars should not be in the Science Fiction Message Group. It should be under Fantasy.

WS – I actually looked in fantasy first – but there was no category there

We've seen the results of a Jedi "wanting" someone – bad prequels. Now I ask you, what more proof do you need to know that is is not counter-productive?

Bad prequels I don't think so they weren't that bad.

If I'm remembering correctly, Correllia (Isolationist America a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away…) has their own Jedi that get to have relationships and wear green robes, could be wrong on that one though.

Jedi could definitely marry in the New Republic era, Luke did. And if you want to acknowledge the prequels, yes, "no love for Jedi" was a bad idea. That the Jedi Order and the Old Republic as a whole had some serious issues was sorta the point of those rumored 3 prequel films.

From reading the books the Jedi Order was not the only group of Force users, just the officially recognised one. So it would seem that their recruits would come from these unofficial groups and would depend on how much the recruits wanted to stick to the rules.

Yes, the books, video games etc have much to say on this stuff in far greater depth than any of the films. What is regarded as 'canon' changes from week of week of course:)

Back in the good old days of the Old Republic Revan ended up marrying Bastila and went on to save the galaxy from the true Sith (the unfortunate Jedi Civil War he started and billions dead can be a glossed over, oops).

In general, love, or 'attachment' are cautioned against as possible routes to the dark side, although of course much of this depends on the individuals moral character.

As most of the Jedi in the the SW films have the moral character of petulant teenagers, I am not surprised there are a few problems.

And yes, it is quite possible to be a force user or force sensitive without being a Jedi.

You realize jedi are based on shaolin monks, right?

After all that "may the sauce be with you and your spaghetti meat balls."
Too much analyse on a lamish scifi fantasy genre. Its only worth its fight/action scenes.

Live long and prosper.

Just because the Force was strong in one particular family doesn't mean it's hereditary galaxy-wide. This family just happened to be lucky (or unlucky, as the case may be).

In the old Expanded Universe material this actually DOES come up; Jedi in the old-old Republic sometimes used to marry and have kids, this practice was banned by the prequel era, and it is noted that really strong Jedi seemed to rarer and rarer.

The idea behind 'no relationships, no kids' was pretty simple though; love leads to attachment which leads to fear of loss, which leads to the dark side blah blah. Which is what pretty much happened to Anakin. But then the whole situation would probably have been less stressful if he didn't have to keep his wife secret.

From a political standpoint it might also have been to allay fears from the Senate that the Jedi were some sort of hereditary master race. Cause at some points in the Republic's history, well, the Jedi acted like a hereditary master race.

So it's not all that crazy. And yes, the prequal-era Jedi were all sorts of messed up, along with the Old Republic itself. Which was kind of the whole point, though people seem to miss since the prequels are a boring mess.

-Will

Will the prequels were not a boring mess at least that's how I see it.

> Will the prequels were not a boring mess at least that's how I see it.

Good for you, the vast majority of everyone else agrees that they were.

Will the prequels were not a boring mess at least that's how I see it.

You are perhaps the second person I have ever heard to express that opinion. That doesn't make you wrong, but you're fighting an uphill battle here. :)

-Will

Will I've been in this position several times and it doesn't bother me that much.

And I've gotten grief along the way for my stances on things.

BTW I do know a few of my friends who also like the films for various reasons.

Oh swell. Here we go again with this martyr crud.

Ghostrunner might you addressing me with that martyr crud comment?

If you did are you saying that I don't have the right to express my views?