"My season finale predictions for GoT" Topic

The Wall is falling down. That's a given. The Watch has been unfaithful to their vows. Killing the Lord Commander? That's unfaithful.

The biggie is that Jaime will kill Cersei. She has been threatening for years to burn her enemies' cities to the ground. Margaery and the High Sparrow have taken Tommen from her. In effect, Tommen has sentenced her to death.
Qyburn has found the caches of Wildfire beneath the city. So…..
Interestingly, in the books, Cersei burns the Red Keep to flush out Tyrion, who isn't there, but…
Jaime became the Kingslayer precisely because the Mad King ordered his pyromancer to burn the city.
Finally, Cersei's prophecy has her being strangled by the "volanquar", which is High Valyrian for "little brother".

I actually had not thought of that, but I bet you are right. It is necessary for the plot that the Night King cross the wall, and nothing would be more dramatic than a scene of the Wall tumbling down before legions of undead,

I also predict an episode depicting the siege of Winterfell by the Night King. The question I have is, how far south does the final confrontation take place between Ice and Fire?

Jaime killing Cersei for the same reason he killed the Mad King would be a poetic and dramatic episode, and also has a lot of appeal. All of the recent "I love Cersei more than life itself" speeches by Jaime point to some sort of dramatic moment or crisis.

I'd say these are all pretty safe calls. I like the symmetry of Jaime being the one to kill Cersei, and for the same reason he killed the mad king.

I'm going to take a long shot prediction and predict that the white walkers win. Essos has never been threatened by the White Walkers, which is a weird plot point in the books- you have this winter coming, but only win Westeros?

Someone close to the shooting of this series let slip to a friend that Aria has something to do with Cersei's death. Don't know if that is a real thing, or just red hearing…

Bran will be the catalyst for the downfall of the Wall. He was touched by the Night's King and that voided the wards that protected the Three Eyed Raven. All he has to do to void the Wards on the Wall is to go through the tunnel to Castle Black.
Plus the foreboding. Before Jon left Castle Black, he joked to Edd, "Don't knock it down while I'm gone."

Cersei will either kill Jaime at the last moment or they will end up killing each other.

Who won the next battle and how???.

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I just want Ramsay dead next Sunday. I am sick and tired of that sadistic twit.

I am also guessing Theon & Company show up in time to join Danerys in barbecuing the Masters setting up next season for a right and proper smack down of Westeros.

I think that we'll see in the next few episodes that it is Maergery more than the High Septon who is pulling Tommen's strings. But some of the things to watch for (my thought) are Jaime who now that Riverrun is back in the hands of the Freys will be heading back to Cersei. Will he rescue her? After all look at what Jaime has lost;

1)His father
2)His Brother
3)Both his sons, Joffrey to poison and Tommen to the Faith
4)Myrcella

Cersei is all he has left and he went to great lengths in the last episode to talk about how much she means to him. Or will Jaime turn his army north?

Meanwhile will Petyr get to Winterfell with the Knights of the Vale in time? Will Dany fight a quick war, wipe out Yunkai and Qarth and finally turn for Westeros?

And what of Arya, was this what Jaqen (perhaps Sylvio) trying to teach her, that being a cold blooded dispassionate killer really wasn't in her future?

Finally, Cersei's prophecy has her being strangled by the "volanquar", which is High Valyrian for "little brother

Maybe she'll be hanged by Tommen, Tommen being the "little brother" and strangling is being hanged?

The Mountain has to have something spectacular plotwise to do, otherwise he is Checkov's pistol. A very large one.
Since Tommen just ruled out Trial by Combat, maybe he can kill Tommen. And Lancel. And the High Sparrow. And Uncle Kevan.

Who's next in line if Tommen goes bye-bye?

Who's next in line if Tommen goes bye-bye?

Tommen is the last "Baratheon" heir (of course we know that he isn't a Baratheon). While I don't know the actual rule of succession in Westeros I would have to say that the throne is open. Stannis' child Shireen is, in the series, dead although both are still alive in the books. Renly died without an heir. Cersei, Kevan, Jaime, and Lancel are of course all Lannisters, without an independent claim to the throne. Maybe Maergery? She is the Queen.

Robert's slim claim to legitimacy was an aunt who was a sort-of Targaryean.
With all of Robert's heirs wiped out, then Westeros goes hat in hand to a Targ.
Will it be Dany, the homicidal maniac, or Jon the heroic once dead warrior?

Dany's claim is probably better, being descended from the last Targaryean King, while Jon is a grandson.
Unless Westeros has Salic law.

or the High Sparrow could legitimize Gendry…
or the other bastard at Storm's End.(name forgotten)

Erdric Storm.
In the show, Gendry took his place.
As far as my knowledge of Westerosi law goes, only Kings can legitimize bastards. But I failed the bar exam.

Hmm. Hence the High Sparrow has been encouraging Margery to get a-tupping with Tommen.

What was the rumor that Cersei had Qyburn investigating?

Only a King can do it,Stannis offered to legitimize Jon Snow, Tommen legitimized Ramsay. But if Tommen dies there is only one person left claiming to be a King in Westeros and that's Euron. Now Euron isn't likely to legitimize a rival (BTW it's my understanding that bastards, especially un-recognized bastards, which all of Robert's were, cannot inherit). Now it is possible for someone to raise Rickon up as Robb's heir and "The King in the North". Of course he is in Ramsay's hands and is likely to remain there.

So if Tommen dies then the title might very well pass to Maergery who is obviously playing her own game. After all, she said (and I forget to whom) that she didn't want to be "a" Queen, she wanted to be "THE" Queen. After all if Tommen dies then there are (in the series) no living legitimate Baratheon heirs left. Maergery would be (albeit by marriage) Tommen's closest living relative.

Now of course you have Dany's claim as a Targaryen. In the series she is the only living legitimate Targaryen left. Jon Snow may or may not be a Targaryen but, and this is a big but, if he is he still is illegitimate. His Father may have been Rhaegar but his mother was probably Lyanna Stark (assuming the theories about his parentage are correct).

Either way without a Parliament or some other such body I don't know that The Seven Kingdoms have an instrument to "invite" in another Royal Line or to reestablish an overthrown line (the Targs) or to elevate another House. Now the High Septon would probably claim that given the forgoing it is up to the Faith to decide but I think that would quickly lead to Civil War. Of course pretty much all these options lead to that.

If Jon Snow and Danny joint forces (and maybe… a marriage)… who can stop them?….

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Each other. Each will see themselves as the legitimate heir. And Dany wants to break the wheel.

Margaery will have to marry into a few more royal houses to put in a claim. House Arryn has Sweetrobin as a single eligible bachelor heir. Stark has Bran, who may or may not be able to …. function. Maybe Rickon.
Greyjoy has Euron.
There are a few more possibilities, but let's leave Harry the Heir out of this.

The Arryns have no claim to the Iron Throne, nor do the Starks or the Greyjoys. Cersei actually has a claim and Tommen actually can derive a claim through her except that he is illegitimate and for the sake of this argument, dead. Maergery could derive a claim for being married to Tommen but Cersei could, if she admitted to her incest, wipe out that claim. The only legitimate blood claim to the throne is Dany's. Even if Jon Snow is a Targ he is illegitimate.

Unless L and R were secretly married.

Well it was nice of the Slave Masters to bring the one thing that Daenerys needs.

Ships and lots of them.

As for the Slaver Cities they have Daenerys forces bearing down on them and there is no army there since those are on their ships.

Oh and I think that Ramsey time is coming.

Wasn't Rhaegar already married?

Targaryeans have no problem with multiple marriages.

I suspect the Masters ships may soon be burning hulks care of Danny's remarkably effective dragon-based close air support. The other two are still in the pyramid, remember. With Drogon to lead them, I don't fancy the Masters chances much.

Yeah, that's pretty much a given.

I was expecting the same…

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The Ironborn will arrive at the same time capturing the majority of the ships and instantly ally with Dany. Burnt ships do her no good so while the dragon(s) will destroy some the bulk will be captured speeding along the invasion plot line