yarkshire gamer | 11 Jun 2016 7:44 a.m. PST |
link Afternoon Naval Gamers, Just a quick mind update on Project Jutland, the last 6 German Dreadnoughts are finished, that's all the big guns done, hurrah ! Lots more pics on the blog post. Just the 52 Destroyers and Torpedo Boats on the paint tray to be getting on with then. No time for slacking. Regards Ken The Yarkshire Gamer |
Shagnasty | 11 Jun 2016 2:02 p.m. PST |
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Supercilius Maximus | 13 Jun 2016 8:01 a.m. PST |
From a complete know-nothing on WW1 naval warfare…… ……what calibre were the small guns along the sides, and what type of role were they expected to fulfil? |
Blutarski | 13 Jun 2016 9:17 a.m. PST |
SM – German casemate secondaries were 15cm/5.9in and originally intended to act in a traditional supportive "hail of fire" role against capital ship targets at the relatively short engagement ranges (</= 10,000 yds) anticipated by pre-war analysts. Anti-torpedo boat protection was to be provided by a tertiary armament of 8.8cm/3.4in guns (largely mounted in the superstructure). Wartime experience revealed that: (a) battle ranges proved much greater in actual practice; (b) concurrent firing of the 15cm battery tended to interfere with spotting of the main battery's fire; (c) the 8.8cm gun was found inadequate to effectively deal with large modern destroyers. Consequently, during the war, the 8.8cm were progressively removed from German capital ships over time, with their anti-torpedo boat role taken over by the 15cm secondary battery, which proved very efficient in that capacity. B |
Bozkashi Jones | 13 Jun 2016 1:03 p.m. PST |
When are you putting this on Ken? Can't wait to see them in action! Superb stuff. Nick |
yarkshire gamer | 13 Jun 2016 2:25 p.m. PST |
Cheers Blutarski for answering the first question. Nick, we are building for the WW1 Game Day at the Royal Armouries in Leeds in November. Although my thoughts are starting to drift towards maybe taking it to some shows next year. The problem will be finding shows that will have space to take the game, although I haven't figured out exactly how big a table we need it will be big, a minimum of 24 x 6 for the main fighting table. Ideally I am thinking of a two day show with Run to South in the morning of the first day followed by the run to the North in the afternoon, then the Fleet action on the Sunday. My idea is to run the three parts as linked scenarios similar to our Naval Campaigns. Regards Ken yarkshiregamer.blogspot.co.uk |
Supercilius Maximus | 14 Jun 2016 2:16 a.m. PST |
Blutarski – Thanks. I'd always assumed from their positioning that they were originally intended as the "last hurrah" of the tradtional broadside, but wasn't sure. |
Blutarski | 14 Jun 2016 7:16 a.m. PST |
Any time, gents. Jutland is my #1 topic of historical interest. B |
HobbyGuy | 15 Jun 2016 8:03 a.m. PST |
Awesome and fantastic paint jobs. Just a fine point but the white turret rings did not exist until 1917 iirc. Red rear funnel and black mast tops at Jutland. However, you have done the best job I've EVER seen of painting on those black top white circle turret tops. Awesome! |
yarkshire gamer | 15 Jun 2016 8:58 a.m. PST |
Interesting statement regarding the turret rings, here's a picture of Seydlitz limping home after Jutland (1916) with a turret ring ? Only ever seen Lutzow with a red rear funnel, but then most pics are black and white, have you got a reference for that. Cheers Ken yarkshiregamer.blogspot.co.uk |
Blutarski | 15 Jun 2016 9:21 a.m. PST |
Hi Yarkshire – Re red funnels, here is the relevant part of the operational orders issued by Scheer for the Skaggerak sortie: - – - F.) F.T. (radio msg). Stipulations <snip> 3.) Paint the back sides of the rear chimneys red on ships and torpedo boats. <snip> The commanders may inform the officers and crews of this only once they are at sea. - – - The translation is rather poor, probably performed by someone unfamiliar with marine/naval terminology. I would re-phrase it to say – "Paint red the aftermost funnels of ships and torpedo boats". Note that this recognition painting was to be performed only after the fleet was at sea. Hope this helps. B |
yarkshire gamer | 15 Jun 2016 9:55 a.m. PST |
Cheers B, not seen that before. Only ever seen one illustration of a German ship with a rear red funnel and that's an artists impression of Lutzow. Interesting most model makers (I mean proper model makers not us amateur gamer types) don't have that paint scheme. One to look at after I have painted the 250 ships for Jutland! I'm not going back now. Regards Ken yarkshiregamer.blogspot.co.uk |
Blutarski | 15 Jun 2016 10:02 a.m. PST |
It was a tactical ID feature strictly for that operation. I don't see a pressing need for it to be a part of the paint scheme. B |
zaevor2000 | 21 Jun 2016 10:37 a.m. PST |
Very glad I didn't paint the aviation circles on top of the turrets since they didn't do that until 1917… But you can't beat them for the cool factor even if Jutland happened in 1916 before they started using them… They are definitely a b**** to paint and I thoroughly respect those that can do them well! Wonderful paint jobs on your ships. Very impressive! Frank |