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Tango0104 Jun 2016 4:08 p.m. PST

"It has mystified historians ever since. After a string of major victories, the Mongol army suddenly retreated from central Europe in 1242.

Some scholars claim Mongolian politics forced the withdrawal, while others credit the strength of fortified towns in present-day Hungary and Croatia. But Europe could have been rescued by its own bad weather, an analysis of tree rings and historical documents concludes.

The Mongol cavalry fed its horses on the grass of the Eurasian steppe, says Nicola Di Cosmo of Princeton University, one of the study's authors. A warm climate in the early 1200s helped make the grasslands lush and this, in turn, helped the Mongols extend their empire into Russia, he says…"

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thorr66604 Jun 2016 6:44 p.m. PST

Plague

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jun 2016 9:17 p.m. PST

I have always heard the Forests?????
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Jcfrog04 Jun 2016 11:15 p.m. PST

Civil wars

nsolomon9905 Jun 2016 2:38 a.m. PST

I thought it was the death of Genghiz required the Princes and Generals to get back to Karakorum for the Council to decide the succession.

GarrisonMiniatures05 Jun 2016 3:10 a.m. PST

A mix of running out of good cavalry land and internal politics/deaths of Khans leading to everyone needing to be back at the centre of the Empire.

zippyfusenet05 Jun 2016 4:23 a.m. PST

Nothing there they wanted.

Zargon05 Jun 2016 6:16 a.m. PST

Certainly not EU border control.

From my childhood I was taught it was Genghis Khan's death that stopped the westward push as the lesser Khan's (as per their religion and culture) went home to lament and select a new great Khan, and its the same in Orkish cultures too.

vtsaogames05 Jun 2016 7:59 a.m. PST

Ogedai's death put the seal on things. After that there were 4 separate Mongol empires that had to watch each other.

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Jun 2016 8:56 a.m. PST

Overstretch… paired with all of the above.

Ruling from China to Europe with just horses as transport puts some strain on the state structure and needs trust in their generals and local governeurs.

Tango0105 Jun 2016 11:11 a.m. PST

Bad grass…?

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Sir Walter Rlyeh06 Jun 2016 8:19 a.m. PST

Gluttony – A new Khan could drink, eat, and wench himself to death by the time the Hordes could reach Europe. Then the Hordes had to travel back to elect a new leader.

Tango0106 Jun 2016 10:36 a.m. PST

(smile)

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LORDGHEE06 Jun 2016 6:56 p.m. PST

Sir Walter Rlyeh that is a classic!

Chinggis07 Jun 2016 3:40 a.m. PST

The death of Ögödei-qahan, the loyalty of Sube'etai to the (yasa)laws of Chinggis-Qahan and the political infighting between the various grandsons of Chinggis-Qahan were the main reasons for the return to Mongolia after conquering Hungary. Advanced patrols had been sent out into Austria and northern Italy had already been reconnoitred by Qadan in his pursuit of the defeated King Béla of Hungary so it was obvious that Batu and Sube'etai wanted to continue the campaign. In fact, at the kuriltai (meeting of all royalty and high ranking commanders)of 1235, Sube'etai had already stated that it would take eighteen years to conquer the whole of Europe.

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