Tango01 | 28 May 2016 10:35 p.m. PST |
"I have recently posted a piece in which I tried to debunk a few popular myths about modern warfare. Judging by many comments which I received in response to this post, I have to say that the myths in question are still alive and well and that I clearly failed to convince many readers. What I propose to do today, is to look at what Russia is really doing in response to the growing threat from the West. But first, I have to set the context or, more accurately, re-set the context in which Russia is operating. Let's begin by looking at the AngloZionist policies towards Russia…" Full article here link Amicalement Armand |
EMPERORS LIBRARY | 28 May 2016 11:04 p.m. PST |
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nsolomon99 | 28 May 2016 11:20 p.m. PST |
Gosh, "…. AngloZionist policies…"!!!! What rock has this guy been living under? This is a phrase/mindset from decades ago! |
bsrlee | 28 May 2016 11:41 p.m. PST |
I think they need to adjust his medication. Really, total nutter stuff. |
Cyrus the Great | 28 May 2016 11:44 p.m. PST |
Maybe next article, he'll trot out The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. |
Black Guardian | 29 May 2016 12:06 a.m. PST |
Hm, did you actually read the article or just discard it for itīs choice of words? Apart from the poor wording I feel that many interesting and to some degree valid points are adressed in this article. Provided you are able and willing to listen to the basic message hidden in there… So far, your reaction above just shows me how we seem to have unlearned to reflect on what our actions as "the West" throughout the last 25 years look like from the outside perspective. Which is, by the way, what the author is trying to tell us, if I am not entirely mistaken. But, yeah, dismissing his message as insane, outlandish and propagandist outcries is far easier than reflecting ourselves, I guess… :(
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Raynman | 29 May 2016 6:09 a.m. PST |
I didn't see any mention of the aggressive actions the Russians have made (i.e.invading the Ukraine) that resulted in many of the NATO/US actions. Most of the WARSAW pact countries moved into the European umbrella because of the economic freedoms that enjoyed. Yes, I read the article and noticed that it conveniently left out the bullying actions of Putin and his regime. And to say that the US has control of the NATO is false. The US barely has control of itself, let alone other nations. |
Tgunner | 29 May 2016 6:35 a.m. PST |
Sorry Black Guardian, it's Neo-Soviet guff aimed at disinformation. Like Raynman says, it completely leaves out Russian aggression over the last several years and places all blame squarely on some vaguely English/Semitic Illuminati called the "Anglozionist". At that point we've moved from a reasonable discussion of facts to some vaguely neo-fascist, with a Russian viewpoint, propaganda. When in doubt blame the American or Jews, right? Anglozionist conveniently blames both at the same time! Gotta love the efficiency. |
Tgerritsen | 29 May 2016 7:09 a.m. PST |
Sorry Black Guardian, I did read it, and it's crap. That doesn't mean that from Russian eyes, the west has made moves that worry it. Sure, the West has done things that make the Russians nervous, but that in no way excuses this article which has more in common with mein kampf than a serious analysis of the issues reigniting the cold war. As others have well pointed out already, it also notes none of the fault laid at the doorstep of the dictator for life Putin (and let's be frank, at this point, that is what he is). |
Great War Ace | 29 May 2016 8:36 a.m. PST |
"AngloZionist " Dawg Haus bait…. |
GarrisonMiniatures | 29 May 2016 9:50 a.m. PST |
The USSR and the West fought a war. It was a Cold War, but still a war The West won and took over large areas of former Soviet territory that effectively stripped the USSR (now reduced to Russia) of all it's buffer states. Now, the West seems to be surprised that Russia is nibbling away to try and regain it's former lands and calling it Russian Aggression… My question is: Why would anyone reasonably expect Russia to do otherwise now that the country has 'stabilised'? After all, the bpoint of the Cold War was that each side thought the other side had designs on their territory – the Russians have reason to believe they have been proved right. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 29 May 2016 9:58 a.m. PST |
The article would argue that Russian aggression in the Ukraine arose out of the perception that Ukraine is about to leave her economic sphere and become part of the EU. It doesn't make it right but it can be attributed to geopolitics. |
GNREP8 | 29 May 2016 3:24 p.m. PST |
The West won and took over large areas of former Soviet territory -------------- i think you mean democratic elections took place and the old pro-soviet parties got canned. Its not really terrible that people in Poland or Ukraine etc want to look to the West. Also are you not conflating the USSR and Russia – Poland for example was always effectively occupied territory not their former land |
GarrisonMiniatures | 30 May 2016 2:12 a.m. PST |
No, I mean that Russia had buffer states now doesn't. As for free elections, didn't Russia have free elections? See, trouble is any discussion around this subject is banned on TMP. Not all of the West's allies are 'free', nor does every country want 'free. Russia went down the Putin route because of widespread corruption and chaos post-free, we're not talking here about things being 'good' r 'bad', we're talking about perceptions of political reality. In Russian political perception: 'The West won and took over large areas of former Soviet territory that effectively stripped the USSR (now reduced to Russia) of all it's buffer states. ' and ' Why would anyone reasonably expect Russia to do otherwise now that the country has 'stabilised'?' and 'After all, the bpoint of the Cold War was that each side thought the other side had designs on their territory the Russians have reason to believe they have been proved right.' |
basileus66 | 30 May 2016 6:12 a.m. PST |
"AngloZionist" Love it! I think it would fit perfectly for some of my Imagi-Evil Megacorporations! It smacks of conspiracionist paranoia, with a hint of Cold War. Like old James Bond movies. Yum, yum… |
GNREP8 | 30 May 2016 6:13 a.m. PST |
Well having been there and looking at the votes most Ukrainians don't want to be a buffer state of Russia any more nor do Poles or those living in the Baltic states – sadly that sometimes translates into mindless anti-Russian feeling. If you read the works of people like Anna Politkovskaya etc then whats changed in Russia is who is being corrupt not that its been stopped unfortunately |
GarrisonMiniatures | 30 May 2016 7:59 a.m. PST |
Again, doesn't matter what the Ukrainians, Poles or Balts feel – it's the Russian perception that decides Russian behaviour. And it's Russian behaviour (and how to modify it in ways we consider 'acceptable') that is the major concern. It may sound harsh and unfair, but at the end of the day the Ukrainians and Poles are only important if we let them be. Russians are important whether we like it or not – though how long that will be true for is another matter. |