mwindsorfw | 26 May 2016 11:11 a.m. PST |
My Baccus 6mm ACW figures have a general staff that includes a flag holder. For the USA, I can use corps flags. I am not sure what to use for the CSA wing or corps commanders. As far as I can tell, the CSA did not have distinct flags for their wings or corps. Any suggestions? |
ColCampbell | 26 May 2016 11:30 a.m. PST |
Here is what I'm doing for my 15mm "On to Richmond" rules armies: link As far as original flags, the only higher-than-regimental flag that I've seen is the headquarters "guidon" of Featherston's Brigade (CSA) that was captured at Franklin in 1864 and later returned to the state: link Jim |
mwindsorfw | 26 May 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
I think Lee had a personal flag, and I have seen that a number of brigades had their own flags. Unless I use a generic flag, I'm stumped as to what Longstreet, Jackson, etc. would have used once they commanded something larger than a division. That said, I'm not above sacrificing some historical accuracy to give it a bit of flair. |
Frederick | 26 May 2016 12:00 p.m. PST |
There were a lot of very individualistic flags early on – one that persisted in the West was the Hardee flag that Cleburne's men adopted – but although it was identified first with Hardee and then Cleburne it was a flag used by combat units and I am not sure if it was flown at the headquarters level |
GuyG13 | 26 May 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
A lot of times, the HQ flag was the 1st or 2nd National Flag. If you look in the flag database of MOC, you see that a lot, mostly 2nd Nationals. |
John the Greater | 26 May 2016 1:18 p.m. PST |
I use the 1st or 2nd national flag for my command stands (depending on the year). |
138SquadronRAF | 26 May 2016 1:22 p.m. PST |
Lee had a distinctive headquarters flag, how long it was in use is in dispute: link |
WarWizard | 26 May 2016 1:28 p.m. PST |
In the film Gettysburg, weren't Lee and Longstreet accompanied by NCO's with their personal flags? |
Dn Jackson | 26 May 2016 1:32 p.m. PST |
Most generals had a personal flag to mark their headquarters. This is Lee's link This seems a pretty good summation of some HQ flags. link This site from the Museum of the Confederacy has numerous HQ flags including some that look VERY union. PDF link |
Rudysnelson | 26 May 2016 1:36 p.m. PST |
The tent or 'A' flag for Less is correct. These are actually available in 3 ' X 5' . I have sold a number of them ten or so years ago. Then they ran about $24. USD The Army of the Tenn. was known for distinctive Corps flags. The Hardee flag was a dark blue field with a white circle in the center. The troops liked this flag since they could easily painted battles on them. Polk had his own flag which was Red Cross in a vertical/horizontal format, white stars on a blue field. |
John Miller | 28 May 2016 3:30 p.m. PST |
I was under the impression that Corps Commanders of the AoP were generally accompanied by a soldier bearing their standard, (not sure about Army Commanders), at least by 1863. On the other hand I was under the opposite impression for Corps Commanders of the ANV, that their flags were usually left at their headquarter sites and the same for Gen'l Lee's flag. I was wondering if anyone would have any information regarding the above, one way or the other. Because I will have no access to a computer for a couple of days after tonight thanks in advance for any comments you would like to make. John Miller |
donlowry | 29 May 2016 9:07 a.m. PST |
I think you are correct, John Miller. In 1864-5, Meade had a purple swallow-tailed HQ flag with an eagle in a wreath, but pretty sure he didn't have that in '63. In '64 Grant's HQ used a normal national flag (Stars & Stripes). The Army of the Cumberland had its own system of division, corps and HQ flags, which changed at least once. |
EJNashIII | 30 May 2016 1:54 p.m. PST |
Meade had a normal national flag prior to May 1864. Grant's 64+ flag was a stars & stripes, but seems to have a much longer proportion than a regimental one. |
49mountain | 31 May 2016 2:21 p.m. PST |
RudyNelson. I'm sure that you meant the Army of Tennessee as this was the Confederate Army in the West. Probably just a typo. The Army of the Tennessee was, of course, a Union army. |
John Miller | 31 May 2016 3:37 p.m. PST |
donlowry & EJNashlll: Thanks for getting back to me. Do either of you have any opinions on weather it would have been normal practice for any Army Commander of the AoP to be accompanied by his standard in the field. Thanks again, John Miller |