"Battle of Isaszag 1849 Orbats?" Topic

Can anyone help me with the accurate orbats and unit strengths for the above battle. I have the V&B scenario but rather than divisional strengths I require the individual unit strengths.

I wish I could help, I am painting units for that very battle currently. I believe the V&B scenario is done by the same gentleman who originally did a MWAN article where he put up the OOB for Isaszag, because he had division strengths.
I'm going to play the battle using Bloody Big Battles rules and my units are one base to the battalion so don't need exact individual unit strengths.

Good luck though!

If you have developed BBB lists for it, please let me have them, as I plan to do this using those rules but in 28mm

I have the original MWAN article which lists every infantry battalion and cavalry regiment by numbers of squadrons plus how many guns per corps.

How do I get this to you then?

sacredcarp@hotmail.com

I hope you'll post an after action report.

Here you are. They are a little wonky because of the pasting, but usable.

ORDERS OF BATTLE
(General Corps and division Leader quality is listed as well as exceptional brigades)

Austrian Main Army, April 1849
Fürst Windischgrätz commanding (Fair)

I ARMEE KORPS Fedlmarschcall-Lieutenant Jellacic (Fair)
1st Division FML Hartlich (Fair)
Brigade Gramment
5th Feldjäger btn., 3rd btn/1st Liccaner Grenz
2nd btn/8th Gradiscaner Grenz, Battery #6--six 6lb guns
Brigade Rastich
1st,2nd btns/2nd Ottochaner Grenz, 3rd btn/3th Oguliner-Szluiner Grenz, 3rd btn/1st Banal Grenz
Battery #1--six 6lb guns

2nd Division FML Schulzig (fair)
Brigade Kleinberger
3rd btn/2nd Banal Grenz, 3rd btn/7th Brooder Grenz
3rd btn, 3rd Erzherzog Carl Regt.
Battery #5--six 6lb guns
Brigade Dietrich
4th btn/2nd Banal Grenz, 4th btn/5th Warasdiner Grenz
Echert composite Battalion, 2nd btn/ 4th Szluiner Grenz
Slavonain Battery #1--six 6lb guns

Cavalry Division FML Ottinger (Fair)
Brigade Sedelmayer
6th Wallmoden Cuirassiers (6 sqns)
7th Hardegg Curiassiers (6 sqns)
Cav. Battery #10--six 6# guns
Brigade Sternbert
3rd Kaiser Franz Joseph Dragoons (6 sqns)
3rd Erzherzog Johann Cuirassiers (6 sqns)
Banderial Hussars (6 sqns) (Croat)
Cav. Battery #5--six 6# guns
Corps Artillery
Twelve 12lb guns, batteries #1 & 2
six 6lb guns, battery #2
Twelve 6lb guns, Cav. batteries #9 and Slavonian #2
six Rockets, Battery #16

Strength: 11,500 infantry, 5,500 cavalry, 1,560 artillerists, 68 guns Total: 18,060 men and 68 guns

II Armee Korps FML Wrbna (good)
1st Division FML Csorich (fair)
Brigade Wyss
four cos 2nd Feldjäger btn., 3rd btn/56th Fürstenwärter Regt.,
1st btn/29th Schönhals Regt.
1st Landwehr btn./59th Baden Regt.
battery #2--six 6lb guns
Brigade Colloredo
four cos 6th Feldjäger btn., 1st & 2nd btns/57th Erzherzog Stephan Regt., four cos 1st Landwehr/21st Paumgartten Regt.
Battery #8--six 6lb guns

2nd Division FML Fürst Schwarzenberg (fair)
Brigade Schütte (Elite)
Fisher Gren., Richter Gren., Vitermann Gren. Btns
Battery #12--six 6lb guns
Brigade Leibler (Elite)
Schneider Gren., Martinin Gren., Rattay Gren. Btns.
3rd btn./17th Hohnlohe Regt.
Battery #13--six 6lb guns
Brigade Bellegarde
5th Auersberg Cuirassiers (6 sqns)
1st Erzherzog Johann Dragoons (4 sqns)
1st Civallart Uhlan Regt. (5 sqns)
Cav. Battery #4--six 6lb guns
Corps Artillery Reserve:
Twelve 6lb guns, batteries #10 & 11
Twelve 12lb guns, batteries #3 & 4
Three 6lb guns, 1/2 cav battery #6
Six rockets, battery #15

Strength: 10,075 infantry, 2,250 cavalry, 1,260 artillerists and 63 guns. Total: 13,585 men and 63 guns.

III Armee Korps FML Count Franz Schlick (good)
1st Division FML Lobkowitz (fair)
Brigade Kriegern
two cos 2nd Feldjäger btn.,3rd btn/6th Warasdiner
St. Geroger Grenz, 1st btn./12th Wilhem Regt.
1st Landwehr btn./24th Parma Regt.,
3rd btn./30th Nugent Regt.
Battery #36--six 6lb guns
Brigade Pergen
3rd btn./5th Warasdiner Kreuzer Grenz,
1st btn./12th Wilhelm Regt.,
3rd btn./40th Kudelka Regt.,
2nd btn./28th Latour Regt.
Battery #34--six 6lb guns

2nd Division FML Leichtenstein (fair)
Brigade Fiedler
3rd btn./57th Erzherzog Stephen Regt.,
1st btn./2nd Ottochaner Grenz,
2nd btn./9th Hartmann Regt.,
3rd btn./10th Mazzuchelli Regt.
Battery #3--six 6lb guns
Brigade Parrot
8th Prinz Karl von Preussen Cuirassiers (6 sqns)
2nd Sunstenau Cuirassiers (2 sqns)
1st Kaiser Franz Joseph Chevauxlegers (4 sqns)
7th Alexander, KronPrinz, von Russland Chevauxlegers (3 sqns)
(Foot)Battery #3--six 6lb guns
Corps Artillery Reserve
Schlick Battery--six 6lb guns
twelve 12lb guns, batteries #5 & 11
six rockets, Galician battery

Strength: 9,000 infantry, 2,250 cavalry, 960 artillerists and 48 guns Total: 12,210 and 48 guns

Army Reserve
thirty-six 12lb guns, batteries #6-8
twenty-four 6lb guns, cav. batteries #1, 7,8, & 11
eighteen rockets, batteries #132, 17, & 23
six 6lb guns, battery #4

Army Total: 43,855 and 263 guns


The Honvéd Upper Danubian Army, April 1849.

Major-General Artúr Görei Commanding (excellent)

I CORPS Major-General Georg Klapka (Good)
1st Division Colonel Desewssy (fair)
Bobich Brigade
28th Honvéd , 46th Honvéd , 47th Honvéd battalions
one squadron of 14th Lehel Hussars, eight 6# guns
Dipild Brigade
6th Honvéd, 26th Honvéd, 52nd Honvéd battalions
one squadron of 14th Lehel Hussars, eight 6# guns

2nd Division Colonel Kazinczy (Good)
Záko Brigade
19th Honvéd , 34th Honvéd Battalions
half squadron of 13th Hunyady Hussars, four 12# guns
Schulz Brigade
17th Honvéd, 3rd Btn/39th Dom Miguel Regiment
half squadron of 13th Hunyady Hussars, four 12# guns

Méstzterházy Cavalry Brigade
1st Emperor Ferdinand Hussars (8 sqns)
8th Prince Coburg Hussars (4 sqns), eight 6# guns

Artillery Reserve: Eight 6# guns

Strength: 9,200 infantry, 1,600 cavalry 800 artillerists and forty guns. Total: 11,600 men and 40 guns.

II CORPS Major-General Lajos Aulich (good)
1st Division Colonel Rakowski (fair)
Buttler Brigade
25th Honvéd(Landwehr),43rd Honvéd, 54th Honvéd Btns
One Squadron 6th Wurttenberg Hussars, eight 6# guns
Mihaly Brigade
56th Honvéd, 1st Btn/39th Dom Miguel Regiment
One Squadron 17th Bocskay Hussars, eight 3# guns

2nd Division Colonel Horvath (Good)
Mandy Brigade
49th Honvéd, 61st Honvéd, 63rd Honvéd Battalions
One Squadron 17th Bocskay Hussars, eight 6# guns
Cavalry Brigade
6th Württemberg Hussars (6 sqns)
14th Lehel Hussars (3 sqns)

Artillery Reserve: eight 6# guns

Strength: 6,800 Infantry, 1,800 Cavalry, 640 Artillerists and 32 guns Total: 9,040 men and 32 guns

III CORPS Major-General Johann Damjenich (Excellent)
1st Division Colonel Wysocki (Excellent)
Leiningen Brigade (Elite)
3rd Honvéd, 42nd Honvéd, 3rd btn/54th Pr.of Hesse Regt.
one Sqn 3rd d'Este Hussars, eight 6# guns
Kiß Brigade (Elite)
9th Honvéd, Polish Legion btn, 3rd btn/60th Vasa Regt.
one Sqn 3rd d'Este Hussars, eight 6# guns
2nd Division Colonel NágySandor (Good)
Knezich Brigade
60th Honvéd, 2nd btn/34th Pr. of Prussia Regt.
Eight 6# guns
Kázonyi Birgade
2nd King of Hanover Hussars (8 sqns)
3rd d'Este Hussars (4 sqns), Polish Lancers (one sqn)
eight 6# horse guns

Artillery Reserve: Eight #6 guns

Strength: 9,200 infantry, 2,000 cavalry, 800 gunners and 40 guns
Total: 12,000 men and 40 guns

VII Corps Major-General Gáspár (poor)
1st Division Colonel Kossuth (fair)
Horváth Brigade
15th Honvéd, 39th Honvéd btns,
six sqns 9th Emperor Nicholas Hussars, five 6# guns
Waldberg Brigade
1st Btn, 60th Vasa Regt.
two sqns 13th Hunyady Hussars, eight 6# guns
Petheö Brigade (Elite)
1st btn/ 2nd Emperor Alexander Regt., Nógráder Btn
two co,s pioneers, two co.s Ujházy Rifles, five 6# guns

2nd Division Colonel Kmety (good)
Gergely Brigade
10th Honvéd, 25th Honvéd, one co. of pioneers
two sqns 10th Friedrick Wilhelm Hussars, seven 6# guns
Ujváry Brigade
45th Honvéd, two co.s Ujházy Rifles
four sqns 10th King of Prussia Hussars, six 6# guns
Uechtritz Brigade (Elite)
33rd Honvéd, 51st Honvéd btns, two sqns 12th Palatinal
Hussars, six 6# horse guns

3rd Division Colonel Pöltenerg (good)
Kossuth Brigade (Elite)
1st Honvéd, 50th Honvéd btns,
two sqns 4th Grand Prince Alexander Hussars,
seven 6# horse guns
Zambély Brigade
14th Honvéd, 66th Honvéd btns,
four sqns 4th Grand Prince Alexander Hussars, seven 6# horse guns
Weissel Brigade (Elite)
four co.s Grenadiers, 3rd btn/48th Ernö Regt.,
four co.s Tyrolean Rangers,
two sqn 9th Emperor Nicholas Hussars, six howitzers, two rockets.

Artillery Reserve: Seven howitzer horse guns

Stength: 12,400 infantry, 3,150 cavalry, 1,360 gunners and 68 guns Total= 16,910 men and 68 guns
ARMY TOTAL= 49,550 and 180 guns

Thanks McLaddie for doing that for Shipka. I was dreading typing all that out. It's your OOB from the old MWAN that I'm using for my painting project. I loved your articles and had it in mind for years to do this interesting and almost unknown war.

Two questions for you if you don't mind.

In your comments and line drawings about uniforms what you have on the Hungarian Nograder battalion confuses me. You say they wore regular Hungarian army uniforms, does that mean the white coats like some of the regulars wore during the war or is it the brown coats trimmed with red of the regular Honved?

Also in your paragraph you describe Nograder as wearing shakos, but the line drawing has the Nograder figure wearing one of those brimmed hats almost like a bowler. Not what I would call a shako for certain. Which is it?

I really appreciate all the info you have found on this period over the years. Thanks for having inspired a fellow wargamer!

In your comments and line drawings about uniforms what you have on the Hungarian Nograder battalion confuses me. You say they wore regular Hungarian army uniforms, does that mean the white coats like some of the regulars wore during the war or is it the brown coats trimmed with red of the regular Honved?

mghFond:

Thank you. I'm glad you found the articles useful and inspiring. That makes the effort worth it.

Regular Hungarian uniforms were the brown coats with red cording and slat blue pants, much the same color as the Hungarians and later Union army during the ACW. You see a lot of uniform styles inspired by the Hungarian War.

The White coats were not that common. Early Militia, the first Polish battalions and one Honved battalion wore white coats as far as I know.

Also in your paragraph you describe Nograder as wearing shakos, but the line drawing has the Nograder figure wearing one of those brimmed hats almost like a bowler. Not what I would call a shako for certain. Which is it?

Yes, I can see how that would be confusing. No, they didn't wear shakos, but black brimmed hats with one side folded up sporting a green feather as shown. the Nograder battalion was used as a light infantry battalion.

It was a big, fascinating, unknown war, for sure. Glad you're getting into it. Love to see any pictures.

OK, thanks, I will paint them up with hats and green feathers then, I got some figs which will work. Oh and when I'm ready I promise you I will post pics of my two armies!

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I am interested in seeing any line drawings of the Nograder Battalion as I am having figs made in 28mm

I am also interested mghFond in seeing your painted collection

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I am interested in seeing any line drawings of the Nigrader Battalion as I am having figs made in 28mm

Shipka:

I can't find any. I am under the impression that they were dressed like the Light regiments, but with brown coats, green cording, med. blue trousers and a brimmed hat, one side turned up and a green feather in it.

However, I haven't seen a picture of the battalion uniform.

It is when one gets to the regional militia and peasant dress, painting gets interesting