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How do folks interpret rules that state they are 1:1?

One vehicle = One vehicle, but based on multiple bases

One vehicle = One vehicle based singly and operate as single vehicle?

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Lots of pictures, a play through video and descriptions of the heroes.

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Number 2!

Second one.

I assume option 1 means "3 vehicles on the stand and representing 3 vehicles" ? Just clarifying.

It could be either but my assumption will generally be the second.

Indeed it does Mr weasel,

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Gotcha. I see it used like that for infantry sometimes, like the old Space Marine rules where a 5 man stand would represent 5 men (if you'll forgive the scifi example) but rarely for tanks.

How do folks interpret rules that state they are 1:1?

1 figure is 1 man
1 model is 1 vehicle

The basing is entirely irrelevant

"The basing is entirely irrelevant"

1:1 with single vehicle base iss very different to having 1:1 with 3 vehicles on the same base,

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1:1?

One vehicle model = one vehicle
One figure = one figure

with movement and combat resolved individually for each one. (You might do fireteams or possibly sections for the infantry, like IABSM).

Putting five 2mm Tigers on a platoon base does not make Spearhead into a 1:1 game.

Major B and Martin Rapier understand it perfectly.

What's the point of playing one infantry figure equals one actual combatant, but one vehicle equals any other number?

If a single "man" is on a base of any size, two or three tanks on one base absolutely must be on one that's of ridiculously huge proportions.

Any rules set that operates that way is a complete waste of time as an historical war game. Only magic items can be "life sized" but occupy the space of three of itself.

Give me a freakin' break….

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Martin Rapier – A real man puts 5 28mm Tigers on that base :D

Wouldn't three vehicles on one base be 3:1 troop/platoon/etc?
Option two seems more reasonable as a working definition of 1:1 gaming.

To me, 1:1 means 1 model represents a single troop or piece of equipment, individually based, and with individual firing resolution.

"Martin Rapier – A real man puts 5 28mm Tigers on that base :D"

But the rules say bases have to be one and one quarter inches square, so they won't fit. We can't possibly do something the rules say we can't, can we?

More seriously, for vehicles the definition is obvious, but it is less obvious for infantry. Both WRG 1925-50 and IABSM (and even FOW) use a 1:1 representation for infantry, but combat is resolved at team, section and platoon level respectively. They are still 1:1 games though.

If you are going to resolve combat at the level of each soldier, I'd call that a skirmish game (which is a subset of 1:1 games).

So of course using that logic, you could indeed multi base your tanks and call it 1:1, but it isn't common usage and a lot of people would be surprised by it.

It is back to different views on "level", in the context of command, formations, representation and resolution.

Agree there Martin, in 20mm and 6mm! It is much easier to represent, especially in 6mm, an infantry section with a number of figures attached to a base, in a line. Otherwise it could get very fiddly, I remember a few times commanding a gun group racing from one flank to another to set up to cover the rest of the section as it advanced.

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And there was me trying to picture 3 x 28mm Tigers on one base….

Well if the base was quite large than you could do that.