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mghFond12 May 2016 8:15 p.m. PST

I recently got a great book on Hungarian uniforms for that fascinating war but this question concerns their opponents, the Austrians.

I need to paint some Austrian Uhlans who fought at the Battle of Isaszeg, the OOB lists them as 1st Civallart Uhlan Regiment.

On the off chance anyone knows the uniform, I'd be grateful for your answer, thanks!

Durando12 May 2016 10:18 p.m. PST

A letter or email to the military museum in Vienna may illicit a response, alternatively try Ralph at The Continental Wars Society

McLaddie13 May 2016 12:24 p.m. PST

Here is a picture of my effort:

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mghFond13 May 2016 4:34 p.m. PST

I don't know if its because I am not a member of that group but when I go to both links, it just grinds away but no image only darkness and a tiny arrow going in circles in the center of the screen.

kingscarbine14 May 2016 4:14 a.m. PST

Are you looking for that particular unit or Austrian Uhlans in general?

mghFond14 May 2016 6:00 a.m. PST

Best possible world would be that particular unit as I am painting my forces based on a specific battle OOB and that's the lone Austrian uhlan regiment.

However 1840s uhlans in general would be better than nothing. When I google though all I come up with Napoleonic ones 1805-1812ish.

kingscarbine14 May 2016 8:07 a.m. PST

Osprey's The Austrian Army 1836-66 (2): Cavalry has a plate with a company officer of the 1st Uhlans in campaign dress with the kurtka with lapels fastened to the right side hiding the facings (red?). Grey service trousers reinforced with black leather up to the knees.

Additional info: czapka: Emperor yellow; buttons yellow.

Here's an example of an 1848 Uhlan:

picture

KTravlos14 May 2016 8:52 a.m. PST

Find Ottenfeld prints, they are the best source.

John the Red14 May 2016 12:17 p.m. PST

There are prints of 1848 Austrian Uhlans on the New York Digital Library site.

They all worn the same basic uniform, as per the uniform shown above. Not sure if the colours of the Czapka still followed the Napoleonic model, but if they did the 1st Uhlans had yellow top to theirs.

just painted a unit for the Napoleonic wars and they are lovely !

Durando14 May 2016 9:24 p.m. PST

McLaddie I have the same problem trying to view your pictures

mghFond15 May 2016 7:22 a.m. PST

Thanks everybody, I ended up painting the Uhlans based on the info you guys kindly shared. Hey, if they end up not exactly correct, 99% of gamers will never realize anyhow.

McLaddie29 May 2016 8:14 a.m. PST
mghFond29 May 2016 8:29 a.m. PST

McLaddie,

Just as your earlier link, that one doesn't work. I don't think it's just me either as Shipka wrote he also could not get it to work.

Thanks for trying but maybe you could just describe the colors you used for the unit's uniform?

McLaddie29 May 2016 5:15 p.m. PST

I apologize. I forgot that the picture was on the LittleSoldiers Yahoo list and can't be viewed unless you're a member. Mea Culpa

Here it is:

picture

mghFond29 May 2016 8:20 p.m. PST

Thanks, McLaddie, I already painted my uhlans but yes, I used those colors so I am a happy camper.

paperbattles08 Apr 2022 7:35 a.m. PST

@mghFond I know you already painted your Uhlans, but I wanted to add some info on this topic.
I wrote a post on my blog

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I am concerned about the Italian Front where fought the 3rd and 4th Uhlan Regiments.
The uniform of the Uhlans in the Austrian Army in 1848 was – as usual – very similar to that of the Napoleonic Period.

The Austrian Army in 1848 had 4 Uhlan Regiments; in Italy, there were present the 3rd Uhlan Regiment Erzherzog Karl Ludwig and the 4th Regiment Kaiser Ferdinand. This units were usualy raised in the Polish and Galician parts of Empire, following the traditions of these countries for fierce cavaliers.

The tactical unit was the "Division", i.e. 2 squadrons put together, every squadron had 180 men. Every Regiment of Uhlans had 4 Divisionen for hence 8 squadrons, around 1.440 men/regiment. Moreover there was the General Staff of the Regiment.

Each squadron was itself split into 2 Wings (Flugel) each of which was on 2 Pelotons. So every peloton had 45 men. During the campaign 1848/49 every regiment was reinforced by 300 new recrtuits, pratically raising the number of a regiment up to 1.800 men.

Just 16 men per squadron had a carabine the rest with spear.

The uniform was under the influence of the Polish style. So they wore a Czapka (typical square headgear), that was of different colours to distinguish each regiment.

So, for the Campaign in Italy they wore

- 3rd Uhlan Regiment Erzherzog Karl Ludwig: RED Czapka

- 4th Regiment Kaiser Ferdinand: WHITE Czapka

The rest of the unifor was identical for all regiments of Uhlan, as well as the saddle.


The 1st Regiment had (like in the Napoleonic period) yellow Czapka. (I am wondering where fought the 2nd).

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