"15mm Abbasid Arab Spearmen figs?" Topic
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Nikator | 11 May 2016 2:09 p.m. PST |
Look, I know that a number of manufacturers make Arab spearmen, mostly for the Arab Conquest army (Essex, OG, for example). Legio Heroica makes some lovely figures for the later Saladin-fights-the Crusaders period. The dudes I want are for around 800 AD. Did they use the teardrop -shaped Infantry shields by then, or were they still using the round shields of the COnquest period? Were they using helmets, or a burnoose? Robes or trousers? And who makes the little darlings? I have a need for an Abbasid army that therapy has yet to cure. |
Druzhina | 11 May 2016 10:35 p.m. PST |
Some period illustrations: Umayyad painted statue of a prince, Khirbat al-Mafjir, c.740AD Umayyad Frescoes from Quṣayr ʿAmra, mid-8th century AD, Syrian, in situ, Jordan Soldier on an Umayyad or Abbasid Ivory Plaque, mid-8th century AD, Humaymah, Jordan Abbasid Bowl, 9th Century, Iraq. Qatar Museum of Islamic Art Abbasid Lustre Bowl with man holding a Pomegranate, Mesopotamia or Central Asia, 9th Century. Christie's Sale 7959 / Lot 12 Druzhina Illustrations of Arab Costume & Soldiers |
Dan 055 | 12 May 2016 9:14 a.m. PST |
Beware of Essex, they seem to be in the middle of redoing their range, and some figures are 15mm and some are 18mm. They can't be mixed without looking wrong. |
Tarantella | 12 May 2016 12:08 p.m. PST |
I've not handled samples of the latest Berbers but the currently listed and illustrated Arab Conquest/Crusades Essex ranges mix fine together. Teardrop shields were possibly taken up after the Byzantines started using them who may have started using such shields after seeing Frankish cavalry use them. |
Druzhina | 12 May 2016 8:43 p.m. PST |
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Nikator | 13 May 2016 9:38 a.m. PST |
Thanks, guys, this is helpful. Also embarrassing, since I think I own a copy of the heath Dark Ages book and I never thought to look there. Thanks again. |
hindsTMP | 13 May 2016 7:52 p.m. PST |
As you mention, Essex and OG. Some others which are generally compatible with Essex are: Strategia Nova: link Khurasan; link A number of Osprey titles exist with various useful illustrations. IMHO, exactly what ancient types looked like is usually mostly guesswork (with a few better-documented exceptions such as Qin Chinese), so we have a certain amount of leeway. I have found all 3 of the following Osprey titles useful: "Armies of the Muslim Conquest", "The Armies of Islam 7th-11th Centuries", "Armies of the Caliphates 862-1098". MH |
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