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Nikator11 May 2016 2:09 p.m. PST

Look, I know that a number of manufacturers make Arab spearmen, mostly for the Arab Conquest army (Essex, OG, for example). Legio Heroica makes some lovely figures for the later Saladin-fights-the Crusaders period. The dudes I want are for around 800 AD. Did they use the teardrop -shaped Infantry shields by then, or were they still using the round shields of the COnquest period? Were they using helmets, or a burnoose? Robes or trousers? And who makes the little darlings? I have a need for an Abbasid army that therapy has yet to cure.

Druzhina11 May 2016 10:35 p.m. PST
Dan 05512 May 2016 9:14 a.m. PST

Beware of Essex, they seem to be in the middle of redoing their range, and some figures are 15mm and some are 18mm. They can't be mixed without looking wrong.

Tarantella12 May 2016 12:08 p.m. PST

I've not handled samples of the latest Berbers but the currently listed and illustrated Arab Conquest/Crusades Essex ranges mix fine together.

Teardrop shields were possibly taken up after the Byzantines started using them who may have started using such shields after seeing Frankish cavalry use them.

Druzhina12 May 2016 8:43 p.m. PST
Nikator13 May 2016 9:38 a.m. PST

Thanks, guys, this is helpful. Also embarrassing, since I think I own a copy of the heath Dark Ages book and I never thought to look there. Thanks again.

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP13 May 2016 7:52 p.m. PST

As you mention, Essex and OG. Some others which are generally compatible with Essex are:

Strategia Nova: link

Khurasan; link

A number of Osprey titles exist with various useful illustrations. IMHO, exactly what ancient types looked like is usually mostly guesswork (with a few better-documented exceptions such as Qin Chinese), so we have a certain amount of leeway. I have found all 3 of the following Osprey titles useful: "Armies of the Muslim Conquest", "The Armies of Islam 7th-11th Centuries", "Armies of the Caliphates 862-1098".

MH

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