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vtsaogames07 May 2016 1:21 p.m. PST

Thursday the Corlears Hook Fencibles played a game of the 1862 Battle of Puebla, since it was the 154th anniversary. Heresy alert: the Mexicans look suspiciously like Confederates and their gunners like Union troops. If that doesn't put your knickers in a twist, read on. Otherwise avert your eyes.

Dice determined that Rick played the French while I played the Mexicans, assisted by Ken as Porfirio Diaz. The view from the French side of the table:

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French artillery moved into range of the Mexican smoothbores while still limbered. A lucky shot saw one gun hit and silenced. The other guns quickly unlimbered outside of smoothbore range.
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It soon became clear that the French were going for the Mexican right, which is where Zaragoza thought the attack would come.
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In the center, Fort Guadalupe belched defiance.
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After a brief barrage, the French advanced with Zouave battalion going straight for the brickworks, losing to Mexican artillery fire.
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The French slowly gained ground in the woods.
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Mexican infantry behind the guns in La Ladrillera made a bayonet charge but were chased back behind the guns by French rifle fire. The Zouaves then stormed forward with bayonets. Something went badly wrong with their charge (truly lousy dice) and they were repulsed with losses.
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The spent Zoauves moved back and countered a flanking move by Mexican cavalry with their rifles. If that had been a deeper move…
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The line unit had a choice: charge the brickworks or fall back.
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This relieved the pressure on La Ladrillera.
As the situation grew worse for the Mexicans in the woods, Mexican artillery from other parts of the line deployed to meet the French exit from the woods. The best Mexican unit, the Zapadores, were intact and in cover inside the buildings of Puebla.
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At the end of turn 6 (of 8 turns) Rick decided he had little chance of capturing an objective and he threw in the towel. We had played 6 turns in less than 3 hours. The game is always slower when we have less than 4 players. French losses were some 600, about the same as the actual battle. Mexican losses were some 720, much higher than the actual battle. But then the French didn't attack the forts on the hill.

This was the first play test for this scenario. While it went well, I have some ideas about changes to the Mexican order of battle. A two-stand rifle battalion seems a waste. It should be incorporated with other units of the same brigade and that unit should get a skirmisher stand. I'm also not sure if La Ladrillera should count as having artillery positions dug in it.

In any case, that's it for a couple weeks as I'm off to the north country with my wife for a while.

ChrisBBB2 Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2016 2:15 a.m. PST

Great to see this battle on the tabletop! Thanks for the AAR!

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
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bloodybigbattles.blogspot.co.uk

Shedman08 May 2016 5:50 a.m. PST

Excellent stuff – are you going to post the scenario to the yahoo group so I can give it a go?

Alan

vtsaogames08 May 2016 7:34 a.m. PST

I will post it when I think it is ready for prime time. It needs some work still. If you really want, I'll post the current version in crude form so you can test it too. If you do, I'd appreciate your input on making it a balanced scenario. That said, it was a Mexican victory in the real thing.

vtsaogames08 May 2016 8:55 a.m. PST

While I'm at it. a plea to the hive-mind of TMP:
if you've got better sources than these please let me know:

My OOB and map comes from geo-mexico.com/?p=10741
my most recent description from link

A big thank you in advance to anyone with better or different info.

KTravlos08 May 2016 10:59 a.m. PST

Very nice!

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2016 11:57 a.m. PST

There's Eric Burgess's Blog:
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Eric put a lot of effort into researching the battle, including the appearance of the forts.

Phil the french17 May 2016 5:38 a.m. PST

Not familiar with this war, but your wonderful pictures are very tempting…beautiful report and armies!

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