| chasseur | 06 May 2016 2:34 a.m. PST |
I recently read the memoir of a Union soldier and he makes a reference to an unpopular officer who was a candidate for a stray ball during their next battle and it got me thinking about it.
Does anyone know if any research has been done on this? Thanks. |
| Northern Monkey | 06 May 2016 5:05 a.m. PST |
Plenty of anecdotal evidence. No grand study as far as I'm aware. |
 Extra Crispy  | 06 May 2016 5:25 a.m. PST |
What would the data for such a study entail? I can't imagine such a practice making it into the official records. Maybe a letter here or there at best… |
Frederick  | 06 May 2016 6:01 a.m. PST |
This happened by anecdote on occasion in most armies in the 18th and 19th century – there was a famous story about an unpopular British grenadier officer who told his men before a battle "at least let the enemy shoot me" |
| Extra Crispy | 06 May 2016 6:54 a.m. PST |
I'd venture to say that for as long as their have been unpopular officers, there has been fragging. |
| Old Wolfman | 06 May 2016 6:55 a.m. PST |
I read that during the Mexican War,someone attempted to do just that to Braxton Bragg. |
| 79thPA | 06 May 2016 7:12 a.m. PST |
It is certainly a hard subject to do any research on. A smart soldier/s would simply make the officer's death appear to be the result of combat, so it wouldn't be given a second thought. For records of out right murders you would have to have a suspect and analyze court martial records for their individual motives. |
| Hafen von Schlockenberg | 06 May 2016 7:36 a.m. PST |
A "Fragged Bragg" might have been the best outcome for everybody. |
| Wackmole9 | 06 May 2016 8:01 a.m. PST |
Wasn't there a story about a Rebel families bible with a passage that said "General Jackson Won't be hanging anybodies brother now" |
| rmaker | 06 May 2016 8:30 a.m. PST |
I read that during the Mexican War, someone attempted to do just that to Braxton Bragg. Yup. Rolled an 8" shell into his tent and under his cot. Evidently a semi-dud (low order explosion). |
The G Dog  | 06 May 2016 2:25 p.m. PST |
Who is the union officer that shot and killed his superior officer? I think it happened in Louisville Kentucky? |
| Extrabio1947 | 06 May 2016 2:46 p.m. PST |
Union general Jefferson C. Davis shot and killed Union general William "Bull" Nelson in the lobby of the Galt House Hotel in Louisville on Septmber 28, 1862. Other than never being promoted again in his career, Davis went unpunished. |
| Wretched Peasant Scum | 06 May 2016 7:21 p.m. PST |
someone attempted to do just that to Braxton Bragg Based on the argument he had between himself as company commander and himself as quartermaster, there's a good chance he tried to frag himself. |
| chasseur | 07 May 2016 12:07 a.m. PST |
Yes, I had read of the Bragg incident. Thanks for all of the responses. It would be a great deal of work to winkle out all of the examples, but it would be interesting work though. |
| Dn Jackson | 07 May 2016 9:57 p.m. PST |
"A "Fragged Bragg" might have been the best outcome for everybody." Not for the Yankees. |
| Hafen von Schlockenberg | 08 May 2016 10:30 a.m. PST |
Well,I wasn't thinking of them. QC,good one! |
| GoodOldRebel | 09 May 2016 4:47 a.m. PST |
I seem to recall the tale of a Confederate Veteran who claimed responsibility for 'fragging' Stonewall Jackson at Chancellorsville? |
| Toronto48 | 09 May 2016 10:08 a.m. PST |
Officers sometimes killed other officers as the example of Maj Gen John S Marmaduke shows In September 1863,, he accused his immediate superior officer, Maj. Gen. Lucius M. "Marsh" Walker, of cowardice in action for not being present with his men on the battlefield. Walker, slighted by the insult, challenged Marmaduke to a duel, which resulted in Walker's death. Marmaduke continued to serve as a general till the end of the war. Afterwards he became governor of Missouri link |
