 Editor in Chief Bill   | 27 Apr 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
The Crossing Jordan 1973 scenario (available on the GHQ website) for Modern Micro Armour: The Game lists in the Israeli TO&E: 2 x 120mm M65/M113 Mortar(3) Do you think this would be a reference to one of the M113 mortar vehicle variants? Did the Israelis ever have those? Or is this simply a mortar team being transported by an M113? If so, I assume they couldn't fire from the vehicle, but would have to dismount? (The "M65" I believe is simply a reference to the model of mortar.) |
| Onomarchos | 27 Apr 2016 1:07 p.m. PST |
link This seems to indicate that it was carried inside the vehicle. Mark |
| jekinder6 | 27 Apr 2016 1:54 p.m. PST |
Yes, same as the German M106 with a 120mm mortar vice the 4.2". |
| Bellbottom | 27 Apr 2016 1:56 p.m. PST |
Looks like there was an M3 halftrack version (mounted for firing)
, from that same Wiki entry |
| Major Mike | 27 Apr 2016 3:15 p.m. PST |
The mortar has the ability to be fired from the vehicle or to be dismounted and fired. The portable base plate is usually carried on the side of the vehicle. |
| Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Apr 2016 7:23 p.m. PST |
Hmmm… the Wikipedia page says: …M3 Mk. D – a M3 Half-track based 120 mm mortar carrier (used exclusively by Israel Defense Forces until replaced by the M1064 mortar carrier) However, if you look up the M1064, Israel is not listed as using that vehicle.  Aha! They do list the Keshet ("Bow" in English) – 120mm mortar carrier, which Wikipedia lists as a M113 variant. Keshet image |
| shaun from s and s models | 28 Apr 2016 2:36 a.m. PST |
could be the mortar h/tracks |
| Troop of Shewe | 29 Apr 2016 1:46 a.m. PST |
My research doesn't reveal any M113 mortar variants in '73, clearly the halftrack mortars were in use, but I think the reference is to the Makmat/ Soltram mortar conversion on the Sherman hvss chassis. I'm half way through making one in 15mm for Shaun's growing " odds and sods" 15mm range! |
| Rudysnelson | 03 May 2016 7:24 a.m. PST |
The mortar track assigned to my cavalry platoon and HHC mortar platoon were M109s which were a variant of the M113. The same height and dimensions. We used 4.2" mortars in both the tank and cavalry units. Infantry used 81mm mortars in their M109s and I was several national guard units after 'Vietnamization' use 81mm tubes instead of 4.2" tubes. |
