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Mooseworks820 Apr 2016 5:43 p.m. PST

Also anyone know much about them? Their website is not the best when it comes to ordering. I know I can email them an order. Seems like my 1/72 HaT models are a bit larger than most of my other 1/72 models from other makers.

cosmicbank20 Apr 2016 5:47 p.m. PST

there are some sellers around amazon and ebay I have a bunch of there stuff. Check out Plastic soldier review for each set.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2016 6:00 p.m. PST

The company name "HäT Industrie" looks like German, so technically it should be pronounced somewhere in between "hate" and "het", but the company is in Washington (state) and everyone I talk to just pronounces it "hat". <shrug> Dunno.

I've never tried to order direct from HäT. I get everything from secondary suppliers like Roll Models and Michigan Toy Soldier Company.

I highly recommend spending time on plasticsoldierreview.com looking at reviews and pictures of HäT miniatures before buying them.

Side note: I've only seen a few HäT 1/32 scale figures, but they looked identical to the 1/72 scale figures I'm familiar with.

- Ix

FABET0120 Apr 2016 6:16 p.m. PST

They are a tad bit larger but not so much that they won't blend in with other 1/72nd plastics. The material is softer or more rubbery. But I think the sculpts and casting quality are better than most of the others I've looked at recently. I've been mostly looking at the 19th century figures.

By John 5420 Apr 2016 6:36 p.m. PST

I used hundreds of their 1/32 figures for a Salute game of Trebbia. About 600 of the Bleeped texts, big range, Romans, Latin Allies, Celtibrigians, Carthagians, Alsortsa Cavalry, nice figures, painted up well, the plastic wasn't too rubbery, had no painting problems.

John

Masturbateisnotvulgarity20 Apr 2016 11:00 p.m. PST

It is pronounced Hate.

Cerdic20 Apr 2016 11:45 p.m. PST

There seems to be a strange lack of information about them! For some reason, despite the Germanic 'a', I always thought they were French?

cameronian21 Apr 2016 3:02 a.m. PST

I've dealt directly with them in the USA from here in the UK. The first time was for loose sprues of 28mm El Cid figures and the second for boxes of Napoleonic Swedish. Both occasions were very good experiences indeed, cost wise little difference and an amazingly short delivery time considering the distance the things came.

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davbenbak21 Apr 2016 4:25 a.m. PST

Definitely check out PSR. Hat 1/72 figures can vary in quality and material used. I'm working on some of their latest Napoleonic offerings which are made of the soft spongy plastic. The ancients I've ordered are not. Never have tried to order directly from them.

dBerczerk21 Apr 2016 4:39 a.m. PST

I have several sets of their 1/32 soft-plastic American Civil War zoauves. They paint up nicely, but I have experienced some "flakage" on a few of the advancing figures' bayonet tips.

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I ordered mine from The Michigan Toy Soldier Company.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2016 5:13 a.m. PST

Well, I always say "hat", and I get the figures from the likes of Hannants and Harfield.

Basically they sell their stuff through model shops.

Marc at work21 Apr 2016 5:25 a.m. PST

email them. H is a great guy and will respond to your email directly.

I have bought and used 'fahsands of them over the years. They have good and excellent figures, and some slightly less so. Size wise, they generally fit 1/72. Airifx are 1/76 in most cses, Matchbox slightly smaller still. Revell tend to be bigger (1/70?)

Have fun

And I refer to them as Hat in the English pronunciation way

HidaSeku21 Apr 2016 10:07 a.m. PST

I always call them hat.

I have quite a few HaT 1/72 plastics and they mix well with most other 1/72 plastic soldiers (Revell, Italeri, Esci, Zvezda, Pegasus, etc). I definitely wouldn't consider them "larger" by any means. I'm a big fan of HaT.

Who asked this joker21 Apr 2016 11:06 a.m. PST

23mm to 24mm figures are what HaT produces. They have not made any sets too giant. As said, they do mix well with other companies.

Rubber Suit Theatre21 Apr 2016 11:41 a.m. PST

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There's a chapeau in their logo, so I'd go with "hat", rhyming with "cat".

Early morning writer21 Apr 2016 6:26 p.m. PST

Not all double dots over letters relate to German language so the pronunciation may be different than expected in German so just plain hat, like the headgear, is just as likely to be correct as something else.

Don't know if other languages refer to it as an umlaut like German.

Ivan DBA21 Apr 2016 9:27 p.m. PST

This is old hat.

Who asked this joker22 Apr 2016 6:43 a.m. PST

Not all double dots over letters relate to German language so the pronunciation may be different than expected in German so just plain hat, like the headgear,

My guess is that it is the German umlaut. From what I remember from German class, without the umlaut, you would pronounce it as "hot". The 'a' has something closer to a short 'o' sound. The umlaut makes it sound more like an English short 'a' sound. Just a simple marketing trick I think. Hat (as pronounced in English) is likely correct as that is how virtually every person who collects or games with plastic pronounces it. Also, as pointed out by Rubber Suit Theatre, there is a hat hanging over the 'T'. I never noticed it before! LOL That kind of gives an important clue as to the pronunciation don't you think? wink

Pauls Bods22 Apr 2016 7:31 a.m. PST

The umlaut makes it sound more like an English short 'a' sound.

The umlaut (in German) makes it a "Long a" which was originally written as "ae".
The two dots denote (in German) an unrounded vowel (similar is the e in gender) in this case "ae" which is then writen as ä and would Sound similar to the a in hay.

I pronounce it Hat anyways.

bilsonius22 Apr 2016 8:05 a.m. PST

I suspect that the Umlaut/trema in HäT is as phonetically significant as those in Häagen-Dasz and Motörhead…
(Incidentally, the spelling didn't always protect their website from being spammed occasionally by sellers of [headgear-type] hats, before they added a password.)

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2016 8:21 a.m. PST

Not all double dots over letters relate to German language so the pronunciation […]
Umlauts are also used in other languages (esp. Swedish and Norwegian), but the whole name "HäT Industrie" is very German-themed in a not-quite-Germanic way, sort of like the way Arnold Schwazeneggar doesn't quite seem like an American undercover agent.

I'm guessing the owner is either an American who had no idea his company name could correctly be pronounced "hate", or it's a erudite pun that he knew most Americans would never get. Umlauts have been used in America as some kind of silly flourish at least since the 80s. I'm pretty sure nobody in the band Mötley Crüe knew a single word of German…

- Ix

Who asked this joker22 Apr 2016 8:31 a.m. PST

The umlaut (in German) makes it a "Long a" which was originally written as "ae".

Shows you what I remember. So it really should be "hate". grin

Pauls Bods22 Apr 2016 11:45 a.m. PST

Shows you what I remember. So it really should be "hate". grin

grin
I speak the language every day and often still Forget when to use the Long vowels.
sort of like the way Arnold Schwazeneggar doesn't quite seem like an American undercover Agent

grin grin

dapeters22 Apr 2016 12:00 p.m. PST

Anyone have a guess why they stopped posting pics on their Everything Toy Soldier section?

Who asked this joker25 Apr 2016 8:54 a.m. PST

Anyone have a guess why they stopped posting pics on their Everything Toy Soldier section?

They still post infrequently. the web/forum admin was a gent and then it was taken over by Mrs Jones. Finally it was taken over by Hatblogger. In each iteration, the attentiveness went downhill. I've also noticed the rate of release has gone from 1 per quarter to 1 per half year.

Hafen von Schlockenberg25 Apr 2016 1:22 p.m. PST

Q: Is there a cat in that hat?

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