Schogun | 13 Apr 2016 8:27 a.m. PST |
I'm looking to add some French Engineers to my forces for Sharp Practice 2. I game the Peninsula War. Gringo40's has outstanding Imperial Guard Engineer figs: link Is there any evidence that IG Engineers served in Spain so I can use these? Thanks |
George Krashos | 13 Apr 2016 9:33 a.m. PST |
Doesn't look like it. They were created in 1810 and only attached to the actual Guard in 1812, presumably for the Russian campaign, when 4 new Young Guard companies were created. Prior to that they hung around the Imperial palaces and acted as firefighters for the Imperial headquarters. |
Extra Crispy | 13 Apr 2016 10:42 a.m. PST |
Use them anyway. "Handwavium" |
daler240D | 13 Apr 2016 11:25 a.m. PST |
yeah, agreed, They are too nice not to use! |
Schogun | 13 Apr 2016 11:28 a.m. PST |
I was hoping Dorsene had some engineers with him while he was in Spain. Like Mark says, I may use them anyway. Hey -- if the helmet says IG, what about head swaps to make them more generic (I like the poses carrying crates, barrels and wood)? I understand Gringo figs are tall and chunky. Maybe Front Rank heads would fit? |
Winston Smith | 13 Apr 2016 12:47 p.m. PST |
Helmet looks perfect for that kind of work. |
Schogun | 13 Apr 2016 1:50 p.m. PST |
Yeah, I read these are dress uniforms. They certainly wouldn't be doing any heavy lifting in this stuff. But they look so good! |
Brechtel198 | 13 Apr 2016 2:09 p.m. PST |
The company of sapeurs du genie of the Imperial Guard was decreed to be raised and organized on 16 July 1810. This was done because of a fire in the Austrian embassy on 1 July which resulted in the death of the Princess Schwarzenberg, the sister-in-law of the Austrian Ambassador. The initial strength was 120 enlisted men and three officers which would gradually be raised to a battalion with the strength of 400. Its initial duties was to serve the fire pumps at the imperial palaces and in wartime would be attached to the Imperial Headquarters in the field. The troops would be taken from the combat engineer (sapeurs du genie) of the line. The Sapeurs were always part of the Imperial Guard. They did not serve in Spain. |
Schogun | 13 Apr 2016 3:30 p.m. PST |
Hey? How did I get to Spain? I'm a fireman!!! |
Brechtel198 | 13 Apr 2016 3:31 p.m. PST |
Actually, they were combat engineers (sapeurs du genie). |
Schogun | 13 Apr 2016 3:33 p.m. PST |
From: link Not Imperial Guard, but info re: engineers in Spain: The second French invasion of Spain was 'engineer heavy' in that the units going into Spain had more than the usual complement of engineer units because of the fortresses and cities the French expected to have to either attack or besiege. Generally speaking a French corps d'armee would have one miner company and one or more of sapeurs assigned to it as corps troops (French engineer troops usually served, and were assigned, by company, not battalion). Whenever possible, though, Napoleon would assign a sapeur to every infantry division in the field with the Grande Armee. The engineer troops were engineers and belonged to that arm. The sapeurs d'infanterie were infantrymen and were picked from their own battalions. However, both were sapeurs and performed similar functions in wartime, though the sapeurs du genie were undoubtedly more skilled in engineer missions and work. |