"Brexit Threat to UK gaming companies" Topic

Everyone foams at the mouth about March 29th, completely forgetting or ignoring the transition period which follows where everything remains the same whilst they hammer out over a 2 year period the finer points of what is to follow, including trade deals and some sort of Customs Union perhaps. I note tonight that there is a plan apparently to lower VAT and Corporation Tax if we leave without a deal.

Volleyfire the transition period only exists if there is a deal. No deal = no transition. Almost all small businesses who trade a lot with the EU wargaming or otherwise will be wiped out by no deal. The amount of admin will swamp us and few make enough cash to hire extra staff when you're working 16 hours a day anyway to keep afloat there is no extra capacity. I hate my future being determined by self serving politicians who have no idea about the real world and think no deal will help the economy!

A US:UK free trade deal could be a big boost for the hobby.

N Drury and the end of the NHS. Which would you prefer?

Mind that sky falling on your head now….

Certainly for companies below the VAT limit, Oh it will be soooo much work to either:

1) If you are sending to end user, to fill out a small customs label available for free from your local post office.
Only have to put what items are, weight, cost in GBP, commercial or gift and sign it.

PDF link

Along with remembering not to charge VAT.

2) If you are sending to a reseller, you will need to include 3 copies of the itemised invoice in a pouch on outside of parcel.

I have to deal with some outside the EU export orders for sporting goods.

If you are above the VAT threshold you will need to do your VAT return online for all VAT.

Now it's looking like BREXIT 2.0, I think you all will be fine.

Well I take it its finally a done deal, and hoping trade between us picks up.

I just read the original link. I note the following:

1) it was dated April 1 and is clearly an April Fool's Day joke. It should be treated as such.

2) no nation can 'copyright' versions of its soldiers, tanks, warships or anything else. The Copyright Act of 1981 (UK but in-line with European legislation of the time) only covers intellectual or artistic copyright which belongs to individuals, organisations and companies. Governments cannot prevent scale models of anything of their nation under this legislation.

For example, if you copied another manufacturer's 'French Napoleonic soldier' that manufacturer COULD sue for copyright infringement of their sculptural work but the French government would have no interest.

Likewise if you modelled a 'Ferdinand' tank destroyer you would not have Porsche coming after you about the model. Or the German government. But if you bootlegged another manufacturer's model of a Ferdinand then they can both sue for damages and (under the Copyright Act) call in the police as an act of theft.
This is the same law broken by people who sell bootleg copies of DVDs at boot sales. It is both criminal and civil law.

There are real issues about making modern copies of combat aircraft and I note that some modern Spitfires and FW 190s were built in 75% or 90% original size and flown as a 'model' to prevent copyright infringement claims by the original manufacturer. In other cases a modern replica has been rebuilt (allegedly) from crashed parts but, in practice, virtually the only thing that is original is the manufacturer's plate. The rest of the aircraft is pure replica. This also appears to circumvent copyright claims by current manufacturers as the restorers will simply say they had to replace 'many' parts to make the type safe and airworthy.

In practice Brexit will have little effect on our hobby in the short-term, in the long-term it might effect retail prices between the UK and Europe (perhaps negatively) and retail prices between the UK and the rest of the world (perhaps positively).

Barry

An interesting thread in terms of being an historical recording of how Brexiteers back in 2016 were saying "rubbish" to any suggestion that there would be an increase in paperwork/taxation on imports. I wonder what many of the Leavers in this thread now think?

I wonder how many Brexiteer UK manufacturers (I know of at least one) will now admit their massive error? Or maybe they'll find some more lies to trot out and point their finger at anyone but themselves for this national suicide.