"80 Years War" Topic
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cazador | 30 Mar 2016 2:37 a.m. PST |
A number of things have made me have a look at gaming possibilities for the latter part of the 80 Years War, perhaps overlapping with the early days of the 30 Years War. Any and all suggestions concerning figs for the Dutch and Spanish troops of the period would therefore be very welcome. 15mm would be my first choice, but an happy to consider 28 or 10mm. I assume that dress might well have been fairly generic but would like to know more. Many thanks in advance |
Zippee | 30 Mar 2016 4:01 a.m. PST |
Pendraken have reasonable Elizabethan and Landsknecht ranges but it needs extending for Spanish and other European states to make it more viable – these are in the pipeline I believe |
basileus66 | 30 Mar 2016 11:12 a.m. PST |
Totentanz has a nice range in 15mm. It's for 30YW, in theory, but it may be used for the 1621-1648 period of the war. link |
Phillius | 30 Mar 2016 12:18 p.m. PST |
It is a period I have often thought about. Well, the whole 80 year period really. However, it was not a period of large battles, but one of actions and sieges, I believe. So, depending on your budget/capacity, it may be better suited to 28mm. The new range on KickStarter from The Kraken Released would certainly do for the Spanish. I suspect the Netherlanders could be reproduced from most 17th century ranges. As their armies were predominantly mercenary, think Mansfeld, the troops would surely have looked fairly generic? |
clibinarium | 30 Mar 2016 4:32 p.m. PST |
I know he's a sort of persona non grata on TMP these days, but over the last year or so I've done a lot of 15mm 80YW figures for Khurasan. In truth they are possibly better suited to the 1570-1600 period, perhaps 1610, than the later phase, but there's a large degree of overlap. Spanish are mostly out already, as are some Germans, with more Germans and Dutch in the pipeline. Work starts shortly on War of Religion French too. |
Yellow Admiral | 30 Mar 2016 5:56 p.m. PST |
All the discussion so far is about land battles. I'm watching with interest. If you want to game the period's naval actions, you can use models for the "Armada period". Most warships were galleons with high, steeply raked sterns and rounded bows; growing steadily larger with time, and fancy paintwork of the Elizabethan era gradually giving way to carvings and ever more elaborate stern galleries. The first 100 gun ships appeared in the early 1600s (though not in the Dutch or Spanish navies), and they basically looked like huge, multi-tier galleons.
Carracks and caravels gradually fell out of use, fluyts appeared and multiplied.
Galleys and galleasses continued to be used as warships in the Mediterranean (and occasionally in European waters, until their last advocate Federico Spinola was killed in one in 1603), growing larger and carrying more artillery with every decade.
It Dunkirk was a Spanish port and there were ever more Dutch merchant ships to prey on, so this period saw it's rise as a haven for privateers. The Dutch tried numerous times to take it, burn it, block it, and raid it, usually to little avail. (They had this problem all over again in the late 1600s when it was a French port, during the wars against Louis XIV). - Ix |
cazador | 31 Mar 2016 2:15 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the hints and tips chaps. I have looked at Totentanz and have been mightily impressed. Could be the way to go! |
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