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Gameguy18 Mar 2016 9:45 a.m. PST

Tried to reach the company but no reply. Anyone have any information on these figures and the company. Quality? Do they fit size-wise with Forged in Battle. Will they have more personality figures, Spartacus figures and heavy infantry for Pontus? How and when can the public order? I missed the Kickstarter (Italian version) campaign. I have seen the figure designer's work before on some Punic War figures which I don't think are available anymore but were nice.

maverick290918 Mar 2016 12:30 p.m. PST

I've ordered from Baueda multiple times. Mostly their tents and fortifications. I did get some Roman working crew type figures, they were very well sculpted and fit in perfectly with my Forged in Battle artillery.

I would highly reccomend their products. My only complaint was there was a decent amount of extra resin that I had to sand down (on the bottom of the model where the mold ended) but this is similar to what I have experienced with almost every manufacturer (forged in battle being one of them).

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Mar 2016 2:36 p.m. PST

I stock Baueda here in the US and everything they do is really top notch….

Mark "Extra Crispy" Severin
Scale Creep Miniatures

Oh Bugger18 Mar 2016 4:07 p.m. PST

Baeuda 15mm Marian Romans just got a good review in Slingshot if that helps you.

LtJBSz19 Mar 2016 1:21 p.m. PST

Extra Crispy where on your website are the Baueda figures?

jwebster Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2016 9:53 p.m. PST

They did the Romans as a kickstarter and will be putting them on their web page soon

link

The updates have some details on future plans, which I think included everything you wanted but no idea when they will work on that

John

bauedawargames09 Sep 2016 2:40 a.m. PST

I guys, the new 15mm Marian Romans are out now!

available on our website at:

baueda.com/hostis_auc.html


<br /> 15mm Roman Legionary foot command (Tribune, Primus pilo, Aquilifer, Tubicines)

Gameguy, I just found out there was a bug in one of the contact address on the website, should be solved now but you can always contact me sending me a message here on TMP!

Cheers!

Claudio

HANS GRUBER09 Sep 2016 3:43 a.m. PST

That is an excellent range of figures. Not only do you have a good variety of Romans, but you have all the auxiliaries (Numidians, Iberians, Ligurians, Rhaetians, Illyrians, Thracians, etc.). Well done.

Personal logo Jerboa Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Sep 2016 4:13 a.m. PST

These look incredible for 15m.
It has been years sice I stoped buying lead, if the pics of current released models are showing their true quality maybe I'll have to build more armies or even rebuild some!
Including Late Republic.

Personal logo Jerboa Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Sep 2016 7:31 a.m. PST

I have a (basic) question: with the equites and velites dismissed by Marius, wasn't all cavalry extra-legio?
Ally Galic, Iberian and Numidian cavalry fit just right.

bauedawargames10 Sep 2016 3:35 p.m. PST

Hi Jerboa,

it all depends where and when, the period covered is rather long and complex, going through several major wars and civil wars, upturning the senatorial and equites classes power and eventually even the political order itself as the old Republic become an Empire… (sounds familiar doesn't it? :) so as you can imagine lots of confusion, continuous changes and nothing is too clear cut…

While you are technically correct and the old republican "equites" of the Punic wars were indeed dismissed by the reform of Marius the actual reality was far more complex, even more so because of the ambiguity of term "equites" often used as both an indicator of a social status (in which case the correct term would be "equestrian") and for what we would now call "cavalry".
While originally the two meaning were equivalent (hence the ambiguity) the cavalry role of equites (intended as social class) dwindled after the Second Punic War, as the number of equestrians became insufficient to provide the senior officers of the army and general cavalrymen as well. Citizens belonging to the equestrian class became exclusively officers, with the First Class of commoners providing the legionary cavalry. Later still more and more allied, subject and mercenary cavalry was employed until it eventually completely replaced the roman "equites", although these units were still called equites, like for example "equites Numidarum" (Numidian cavalry). So while the roman equites of equestrian status did not exist any more after Marius reform, some Roman equites (Citizen cavalry) units did serve in the army at least until the reform of Augustus. Such equites may have not all been even ethnically roman but were composed of people with Roman citizenship, equipped and trained in roman fashion by the Roman state, so identical in appearance and function to the old equites… hope some of this makes some sense, in any case AUC4 can certainly be used for a Republican army of the Punic Wars if that is what you mean! :)

Delbruck10 Sep 2016 6:38 p.m. PST

There were (small numbers) of Roman cavalry in the Legion before Marius, and some Roman cavalry in the legion after Marius. I doubt that they ever entirely disappeared. And as bauedawargames suggested, it not unlikely that some allied cavalry used some amount of Roman equipment.

Personal logo Jerboa Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Sep 2016 3:29 a.m. PST

Yes, that's what I suspected.
But I was referring to the military equites, not nobility of course.
With Late Republic some Alae Foederati might have become Auxiliaries and some cavalry could look like that, even with Gallic or Illyrian riders. But I would expect that to happen mostly on Early Empire.
There are good tapestry pictures of auxiliary equites, but I think they reflect E. Empire.

Delbruck11 Sep 2016 4:15 a.m. PST

In any event. as consumers we can use the figures (Roman equites) as we see fit – as Romans, as auxiliaries with Roman equipment, as cavalry in some other army, or not at all.

Baueda, are the legionary shields cast-on or seperate?

bauedawargames14 Sep 2016 6:27 a.m. PST

Hi Delbruck,

all shields etc. are allways cast on, unless otherwise noted, like for example Code: AUC33
15mm Numidian Light Horse (ring hand + separate javelin)
the figures in this pack are cast without weapon and with separate horse. This require a little more assembly work but allow for the most dramatic and realistic poses. Pewter javelins are included.

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