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Field Marshal17 Mar 2016 11:42 p.m. PST

I am thinking about a game in which Australia and Indonesia come to blows after the 1975 invasion of Timor. I have the aircraft worked out for both sides but i can find any information on the Indonesian navy of the day. I would like to do some F-111 anti shipping strikes. Has anyone got any info or can point me in the right direction?

GarrisonMiniatures18 Mar 2016 1:48 a.m. PST

This source gives one possible scenario:

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Destroyer escorts Monginsidi and Nuku patrolling the southern and northern coasts of Portugese Timor respectively.

GarrisonMiniatures18 Mar 2016 1:52 a.m. PST

This looks interesting:

'There were few significant withdrawals/deletions from the reported strength of the Indonesian Navy during the period 1965 – 1974, but in reality Surabaya Dockyard in 1975 told a totally different story. The naval yard at Surabaya contained the remnants of Sukarno's navy. It was crammed full of ships and although they were all fully manned they were generally non-operational, mainly due to lack of spares. The Soviets had withdrawn all support on Sukarno's departure and the ships had been systematically depleted of machinery and equipment. They had been cannibalized in an effort to keep some of the major units of the navy afloat and operational. By this time their operational strength was down to two ex-USSR Riga class frigates and one submarine. A reliable source stated that the one submarine that the Indonesians had left could not be submerged. Whenever there were foreign ships in port they would steam it out of harbour each morning with due ceremony to attract attention. The boat would spend the day out of sight somewhere on the surface, then steam back into port in the evening with more ceremony.'

From: link

Murvihill18 Mar 2016 5:22 p.m. PST

According to the 1975-1976 Janes Fighting Ships:
4 Claude Jones Frigates
4 Riga Frigates
2 Almirante Clemente Frigates (Surpati class)
2 Italian Albatross Frigates (Pattimura class)
13 Kronstadt Corvettes
3 US PC-type Corvettes
3 Whisky class SS
12 Komar FAC-M
5 German Jaguar FAC-T
14 USSR P6 FAC-T
18 USSR BK PC
2 Australian Attack class PC
6 Yugo Kraljevica PC
3 Mawar PC
2 Spear PC
7 US LST
1 Japan LST
3 US LCI
2 US LCVT
1 US LCT
6 T43 MS
5 R class MS
6 Bluebird class MS
6 C47 Helos
3 Aloutte 3 Helos
5,000 marines
And confirming the above "Note: This is a formidable total of ships but the number truly operation is probably a fairly small proportion of that total."

sjolly H418 Mar 2016 8:34 p.m. PST

Not from the '70s, but related… Mal Wright wrote a scenario for Harpoon between Australia and Indonesia:

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GarrisonMiniatures19 Mar 2016 1:50 a.m. PST

Did a search for the Monginsidi – out of service in 2005 and was originally American, the USS Claud Jones. Lots of nice contradictory info here – how could it be on patrol at the time if it was non-operational?

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Also found a picture of a Naku in 2006 – assume it's the same one

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Field Marshal19 Mar 2016 3:26 a.m. PST

Nice work guys thanks for the information.

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