Winston Smith | 25 Feb 2016 8:13 p.m. PST |
Me? Heck no. If I want to game a period or army, I will grab whatever is available. I have no patience for one manufacturer to offer a "complete" range before I dip my toe. Heck, I pride myself on the diverse elements in my armies. How about you? |
Saber6 | 25 Feb 2016 8:17 p.m. PST |
No. I'll get what I need where I can get it |
Battle Phlox | 25 Feb 2016 8:18 p.m. PST |
Generally speaking, no. If a manufacturer has a product in the works for something I want I will wait. |
rmaker | 25 Feb 2016 8:21 p.m. PST |
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Extra Crispy | 25 Feb 2016 8:49 p.m. PST |
No, so long as I can get everything I need *somewhere.* But if line infantry can be had but no cavalry then I won't even consider that period. |
Grelber | 25 Feb 2016 9:12 p.m. PST |
I'm happy to mix 'n' match. Grelber |
79thPA | 25 Feb 2016 9:13 p.m. PST |
It depends. If a company comes out with figs for the Second Slobovian War of Unification, and they are the only company to make figures for that time period, then yes, they better have a complete line if they want any of my money. If it is for a period served by other manufacturers, it doesn't matter as much, if at all. |
21eRegt | 25 Feb 2016 9:34 p.m. PST |
Very rarely. Sometimes I'll focus on one provider for the majority of the units just for the sake of looking similar, but even then I'll mix and match units in the army. |
McKinstry | 25 Feb 2016 9:40 p.m. PST |
Nope. Everything I have is at least 2-3 manufacturers, some more. |
AussieAndy | 25 Feb 2016 10:51 p.m. PST |
The other factor that I would take into account is the record of the manufacturer. If it is a long-established manufacturer with a history of finishing ranges, then I am obviously going to be more likely to jump into an unfinished range. Whereas, if the manufacturer has no apparent track record . . . |
Pictors Studio | 25 Feb 2016 11:18 p.m. PST |
I don't wait. If you wait, they might not ever finish it because they don't have the funds to continue. You have to vote for what you want with your wallet. |
Rrobbyrobot | 25 Feb 2016 11:30 p.m. PST |
I don't usually even consider buying all I want for a period from just one manufacturer. I've never yet found one that has had everything I want. Besides, a collection that has figures from several different companies is more interesting to me. |
Martin Rapier | 26 Feb 2016 12:02 a.m. PST |
I mix and match, unless it is something very niche, like 1:6000 naval. |
Grimmnar | 26 Feb 2016 12:09 a.m. PST |
Don't know of any ONE manufacturer who has ever completed A range. So no. :-) Grimm |
steamingdave47 | 26 Feb 2016 12:58 a.m. PST |
@Grimnar has it right. If we waited for manufacturers to " complete" a range, we would never get started. In any case, what is " complete"? There are so many of us on here who will find out that, for example,there were 50 men dressed in top hats and plus fours who fought in the second Brognovinian War of Independence and Liberation on February 17th, 1847 and we demand that the manufacturer produces that particlular figure with 4 face variants and a choice of March, Porte or At Ease poses. The miracle is that so many manufacturers seem willing to indulge such whims! |
Doctor X | 26 Feb 2016 3:00 a.m. PST |
Not as long as I can get everything I need from manufacturers who mix well together. |
Mako11 | 26 Feb 2016 3:04 a.m. PST |
Ha! If I/we did that, nothing would ever get started…… |
JSchutt | 26 Feb 2016 3:18 a.m. PST |
Pretty much wait for substantial completion…then they stop. I fall for it every time. |
Texas Jack | 26 Feb 2016 3:37 a.m. PST |
I am pragmatic and promiscuous when it comes to getting my project completed. I have been known to mix metal and plastic together, though not on the same base, and will do what it takes to get the troops on the table, dammit. |
Mute Bystander | 26 Feb 2016 4:36 a.m. PST |
A single manufacturer no. But I do now wait until all the basic troops of the factions/nations I want are available in reasonably close sizes until I start. |
Wargamer Blue | 26 Feb 2016 5:14 a.m. PST |
Im waiting for Warlord Games to finish their WWII Belgian range. Its been a long wait. |
Florida Tory | 26 Feb 2016 5:41 a.m. PST |
I don't think I would start a period that depended on one manufacturer with a partial range, so, no. Rick |
parrskool | 26 Feb 2016 6:37 a.m. PST |
it all depends ON "SCALE CREEP" between makers. |
etotheipi | 26 Feb 2016 6:50 a.m. PST |
Nah. As a thrifty *ahem* individual, I not only happily mix across manufacturers to complete a force, but I tend to look for figures that would fit the bill in multiple genres as well. For some forces/genres that doesn't work, but for many it does. I've always felt that color theme is the most uniting factor in a force and sculpt style, scale/size, etc. were subordinate. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 26 Feb 2016 7:27 a.m. PST |
parrrskool has that right--I played in a Zulu War game where one player had an impi of Redoubts,but no Induna. I offered one of my Ral Parthas--now that looked ridiculous! If you're collecting the RP Colonials,or those exquisite Landsknechts,you're going to have a hard time with compatibility. Likewise with "style". A "retro" Minifigs project has its own particular charm, which modern sculpts would mar,IMO. Martin cited "niche" lines,which can be extended to casting choices,if that's the right term.To flog a lead horse a bit,that's why I haven't bought into the Old Glory 10mm SYW line. On my OG WSS and AWI strips,I found I could do without bases;the one-inch strips could be glued(double-ranked),on Steel Paper. I liked the look. BUT, for the SYW range,they did only Prussians and Austrians.Apparently,Russ can't be convinced anyone else was involved--he did the same thing with the 25mms. For those,of course,you've got a lot of alternate sources,but for the 10s, I'd be reduced to trying to squeeze,say five Pendraken Russians into a one-inch space,if I want to match frontage and densities. So,for now,we wait… |
Old Contemptibles | 26 Feb 2016 8:47 a.m. PST |
No. It is too risky to wait because the company may go out of business or it gets sold to someone who does not continue the range. That is why I usually buy from companies that already have a complete or very near it. |
Ooh Rah | 26 Feb 2016 11:06 a.m. PST |
Depends. If different manufacturers can be mixed in the same unit without it looking odd, then yes -- mix and match. But if you can't get all figures in the same unit to match (or nearly match), then no -- wait. I'm waiting for Blue Moon to release mounted officers before buying early French. But I'm also buying early French with mounted officers from AB and CGM since they have everything I need. |
The Virtual Armchair General | 26 Feb 2016 12:02 p.m. PST |
With you on this one, too, "Winston." Of course, I won't buy just any figure that matches my period/subject in the same scale. It has to be at least compatible (to my ever-weakening eye) with the rest of the figures in size when on the table to make the cut. My 15mm Mexican War Collection includes (roughly in this order of proportion) Musket, MiniFig, Old Glory 15's, Peter Pig (from QRF), and Frontier. There may be some artifacts of other extinct lines I've since forgotten, but five ranges is fairly broad, I'd say. Of course, in this instance I wasn't looking merely for variety (some figures from some ranges are frankly pretty crude), but it was only by acquiring figures from all of these that I was able to get every uniform type for both armies. As yet, no single manufacturer--in any scale--produces all the uniform types to allow all Mexican units to be fielded in the same scale. Only in 15mm has it been possible to collect the entire wardrobe--a happy coincidence as it turned out! TVAG |
Weasel | 26 Feb 2016 12:43 p.m. PST |
Usually not. If the range is one that won't fit with anybody else (16.9mm), I'll just pass. |
wrgmr1 | 26 Feb 2016 1:53 p.m. PST |
No, not unless they will be producing what I need within. A year or so. |
Timmo uk | 26 Feb 2016 1:59 p.m. PST |
I wait until a reasonable amount has been done. I have two mainstream periods using very popular figures but there are still gaps in both ranges that I hope will be plugged one day. |
Rudysnelson | 26 Feb 2016 2:37 p.m. PST |
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skinkmasterreturns | 26 Feb 2016 5:25 p.m. PST |
No. In fact I like a ragtag look of mismatched figures. I never could stand the uniformity of GW. |
Skeets | 26 Feb 2016 6:40 p.m. PST |
No, it only went to bite me in the butt once. I started a new period, bought figures, painted them and sent the manufacturer research materials so the line could be extended. Shortly thereafter the line disappeared and I never got my materials back. |
GeoffQRF | 27 Feb 2016 7:43 a.m. PST |
Peter Pig (from QRF) Did you mean Freikorps from QRF perhaps? |
Old Glory | 27 Feb 2016 4:58 p.m. PST |
Now I'm really confused? Is it QRF, Freikorps, or Peter Pig? Regards Russ Dunaway |
Airborne Engineer | 29 Feb 2016 6:29 a.m. PST |
I have deferred a project or two because a range was not complete enough to give a good representation of a conflict. GHQ was a good example, for many years they provided troops, trucks, apcs, and tanks for Israeli and US forces to fight insurgents. But they never produced any insurgents to fight. So they had dozens of packs of vehicles and figures that only ever fought one enemy, arab insurgents and they had not arab insurgents to fight against. So I passed on all of those product lines. Now that they have produced some insurgents, most have moved on to gaming those battles in larger scales as skirmish fighting. Since they created their insurgent packs a few years ago, I have begun picking up stuff to fight those insurgents. I've bought a bunch but they lost years of my gaming dollars to 15mm WWII and other projects. |
GeoffQRF | 29 Feb 2016 8:57 a.m. PST |
Is it QRF, Freikorps, or Peter Pig? Could be worse. One of us could have Glory in there somewhere. ;-) To be clear, Freikorp is made by QRF. QRF is also made by QRF. Peter Pig is an entirely different chap altogether, but I can see where Russ may have got confused, because all three do use the letter R :-) |
Old Glory | 29 Feb 2016 11:35 a.m. PST |
I'm just confused in general. |
GeoffQRF | 01 Mar 2016 4:58 a.m. PST |
This may help you Russ: YouTube link (honestly, best interview I've heard in a long time) |
Ottoathome | 01 Mar 2016 6:05 a.m. PST |
If you wait for a manufacturer to complete a range then you will never buy anything, as no range will ever be complete, but long before that they will be out of business from no sales. |
Ottoathome | 01 Mar 2016 6:08 a.m. PST |
One other note. As for "scale creep" and differences in size and scale, unless you are matching something like classic minifig 25mm with Front Rank or any of the other "bloated lines" you will never notice the size difference once you get them on the table top. I have 18th century armies which have S.A.E. Greenwood and Ball, Scruby, RSM, DPC, and lots of Staddens and Surens which are 30 to 33mm on the same side and you never notice them unless you go looking for the difference, and even then you have to really look. |
GeoffQRF | 01 Mar 2016 6:20 a.m. PST |
As Allen Curtis often used to like to point out, soldiers (and indeed humans in general) do vary:
Or even:
However an M16 is still only 1003mm long, or 10mm in 1:100 scale and belt pouches tended to be made to one size fits all :-) |
Old Glory | 01 Mar 2016 1:17 p.m. PST |
WOWIE – KAPOWIE – I am a movie star and forgot about it !!!! Regards Russ Dunaway |
GeoffQRF | 02 Mar 2016 5:50 a.m. PST |
Forever immortalized on the interweb, probably for generations to admire long after you have left this mortal coil Russ :-) |
Old Contemptibles | 02 Mar 2016 1:25 p.m. PST |
No. No time to waste. I pick ranges that are already complete. |
Old Glory | 02 Mar 2016 1:48 p.m. PST |
WOWIE -KAPOWIE again !!! Just watching that video is very humbling !!!! Regards Russ Dunaway |