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Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP08 Feb 2016 8:19 a.m. PST

Apologies if this has been posted before:

An Analysis of 1300 Effigies
Dated Between 1300 and 1450

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Great War Ace08 Feb 2016 8:39 a.m. PST

Haven't seen it before. Maybe later. I'm an illustrated person. Graphs leave me flat….

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Feb 2016 9:16 a.m. PST

Graphs and math are a good road to truth, if you know how to traed that path and avoid to follow the "lights". :-)

Great informative work, thanks for sharing!

BTW: The "national" assignment of armour follows the modern boundaries, not the historical, so the "French" armour section includes the Imperial armour from the territory that became French after 1450, mainly the Trois-Évêchés (Toul, Metz, Verdun).

Swampster08 Feb 2016 10:06 a.m. PST

Handy way of presenting the data.

maverick290908 Feb 2016 12:09 p.m. PST

That's some great digging you did! From my quick glance, it looks like the 1330's were really a revolutionary time in the pregression of arms and armament.

Waco Joe08 Feb 2016 6:30 p.m. PST

Mega kudos! I do some glass painting (faux stained glass) on the side and was thinking about doing something along the lines of the effigies. the database you linked to is a perfect source of inspiration and patterns.

Thanks!

uglyfatbloke09 Feb 2016 3:45 a.m. PST

A good find! OTH, bear in mind that effigies are (a bit) less reliable than one might expect due to the artistic interpretations of sculptors, but also because the effigy may be a very fine representation of an individuals own armour, but if the subject died at the age of 70 it may well have been some time since he actually wore it, therefore there is something of a tendency for depictions to be a bit 'behind the times'. All the same, a very useful bit of work from Douglas Strong and very good find from Jeff – thanks for posting it.

Lewisgunner11 Feb 2016 3:50 a.m. PST

And depictions can be ahead of the times in that the sculptor may have in front of him the armour of the deceased's heir or even the heir of the heir and may be sculting 50 years after the death of the person depicted because that was when the money came in to pay for the work. Broadly though as others have said here they are a great resource for armour development.

uglyfatbloke11 Feb 2016 5:02 a.m. PST

Absolutely.

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