walkabout | 29 Jan 2016 7:46 p.m. PST |
The next armies for Team Yankee are suppose to be the British and German. What aircraft and helicopter do you think each army will field? |
Doms Decals | 29 Jan 2016 8:13 p.m. PST |
Lynx and Harrier GR3 for the British I'd imagine. MBB.105 is a given for the Germans, and I'd guess at the F-4F, although the F-104 or Tornado are possible. |
Generalstoner49 | 29 Jan 2016 8:14 p.m. PST |
British will be Harrier and Lynx and the West Germans the Tornado and BO-105. |
Garand | 29 Jan 2016 9:06 p.m. PST |
I was under the impression that the Alpha Jet was Germany's CAS aircraft at this time…? Damon. |
Doms Decals | 29 Jan 2016 9:39 p.m. PST |
Yes and no – Alpha Jets formed the light attack squadrons, but the CAS role wasn't exclusive to them – most German fast-mover squadrons were dual-role JaBo geschwadern, so could also be called on. |
FABET01 | 29 Jan 2016 9:52 p.m. PST |
Don't forget the Jaguar for the Brits. |
Doms Decals | 29 Jan 2016 10:14 p.m. PST |
Yep, but it won't be for this – each nationality's just getting one strike aircraft model and one helicopter. For the Germans there's not really an obvious "it'll definitely be that one" contender for the fast mover, but I don't think there's any real doubt that the Harrier will be the choice for the British. |
Navy Fower Wun Seven | 29 Jan 2016 10:42 p.m. PST |
Yes I think the Jaguar squadrons had more important operational interdiction missions rather than beating up first line T-64s and BMPs – that was really just for the Harriers… |
Mako11 | 30 Jan 2016 12:53 a.m. PST |
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Martin Rapier | 30 Jan 2016 3:16 a.m. PST |
My WW3 Brits have Harriers and Lynx for this sort of thing, the BW, Alpha Jets. |
parrot1500 | 30 Jan 2016 5:54 a.m. PST |
15mm plastic Alphajets? *shlumping noise* Sorry about the drooling… |
carne68 | 30 Jan 2016 6:05 a.m. PST |
I wish Battlefront would stop wasting time making aircraft in 1:144 that are already on the market in that scale. Sure make all the 1:100 helicopters you want but the jets are a waste. Think about what would have sold more models, Frogfoots and Ardvarks or Bradleys and BTR's. |
carne68 | 30 Jan 2016 7:25 a.m. PST |
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nickinsomerset | 30 Jan 2016 7:47 a.m. PST |
The British need Gazelles to go with the Lynx and as arty OP, Tally Ho! |
Martin Rapier | 30 Jan 2016 8:38 a.m. PST |
My chaps have Gazelle too, and some Wessex to lug the airmobile types around. |
Mako11 | 30 Jan 2016 10:16 p.m. PST |
F-104 "Lawndarts", just for grins, and/or grimaces. They didn't call them "widow-makers" for nothing, so we probably need appropriate rules to reflect that. |
Jemima Fawr | 31 Jan 2016 11:04 a.m. PST |
Alphajet was the dedicated German CAS aircraft (replacing G-91 in the late 70s and early 80s). Tornados were for interdiction, not CAS. Phantoms were for recce and air defence. F-104s were for interdiction and air defence. |
carne68 | 31 Jan 2016 12:09 p.m. PST |
It's already out there. Better that BF create something that isn't already on the market.
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Mako11 | 31 Jan 2016 1:52 p.m. PST |
I seem to recall reading about the West Germans strapping bombs on the Starfighters, during the earlier Cold War period, but perhaps that is incorrect. They could carry bombs and rockets, in addition to their 20mm gatling gun. Here's what Wikipedia says: "The introduction of a highly technical aircraft type to a newly reformed air force was fraught with problems. Many pilots and ground crew had settled into civilian jobs after World War II and had not kept pace with developments, with pilots being sent on short "refresher" courses in slow and benign-handling first generation jet aircraft. Ground crew were similarly employed with minimal training and experience, which was one consequence of a conscripted military with high a turnover of service personnel. Operating in poor North West European weather conditions (vastly unlike the fair weather training conditions at Luke AFB in Arizona) and flying at high speed and low level over hilly terrain, a great many accidents were attributed to controlled flight into terrain (CFIT). German Air Force losses totaled 110 pilots.[55] One contributing factor to this was the operational assignment of the F-104 in German service: it was mainly intended for the fighter-bomber use, as opposed to the original design of a high-speed, high-altitude fighter/interceptor. This not only meant providing for the usual low-level missions, but also led to the installation of additional avionic equipment in the F-104G version, such as the inertial navigation system, the additional weight of which hampered the flying abilities of the plane even further and was said to add far more distraction to the pilot. In contemporary German magazine articles highlighting the Starfighter safety problems the aircraft was portrayed as "overburdened" with technology, which was considered a latent overstrain on the aircrews.[56]". |