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Personal logo Private Matter Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 9:01 a.m. PST

I can't believe I missed it but on yesterday in 1935, beer in cans first went on sale to the public. I'll drink to that anniversary.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 9:11 a.m. PST

Surely that is the WORST thing that happened to beer!

MajorB25 Jan 2016 9:34 a.m. PST

Surely that is the WORST thing that happened to beer!

Couldn't agree more!

M C MonkeyDew25 Jan 2016 10:19 a.m. PST

Quite.

olicana25 Jan 2016 10:20 a.m. PST

Private Matter lives in the USA, so I doubt he noticed. I've never come across an American beer that didn't taste like pi88, and that is, as a matter of fact, why you can't drink American beer warm.

mad monkey 125 Jan 2016 10:42 a.m. PST

Why would you drink warm beer anyway, if you didn't have to?

Personal logo jeffreyw3 Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 10:44 a.m. PST

The new cans are not bad at all.

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 11:02 a.m. PST

I have to agree that American beer brewed by the large mass breweries is not good (and why I do not drink it). However there are so many craft breweries (large and small) that are producing outstanding beer. Also, the new lined cans that are being used actually keep beer better than most bottles these days.

BTW, I am a beer snob and absolute lover of German Beer………………

Personal logo War Artisan Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 11:19 a.m. PST

BTCTerrainman speaks the truth.

The lined cans being used by some craft brewers are actually superior to any glass container that isn't opaque. Just don't drink them from the can . . . that's nasty. Take note, at the top of this can:

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If you haven't run across a drinkable American beer, Olicana, that's probably because the good American breweries don't export to England. The ones that do export I don't drink over here, either.

Greg G125 Jan 2016 11:25 a.m. PST

Sorry German bottled beer only, canned beer just does not taste right.

Ottoathome25 Jan 2016 11:27 a.m. PST

I am a wine drinker myself. I don't care for beer. It's the Austrian in me.

However, I am fully in agreement with those who do not like beer in cans. NOTHING tastes better in cans than in glass bottles. Glass is the best medium for storage and will not react in any way with the contents, unless it's strong acid like hydrofluoric, which you ought not to drink anyway.

Soda, Milk, beer, wine, water, whatever it is, it's always better in a bottle-- a glass bottle. Nothing like Coca-Cola chilled almost to freezing in a glass bottle.

Even better, milk when just above the point of freezing.

MajorB25 Jan 2016 11:38 a.m. PST

Why would you drink warm beer anyway, if you didn't have to?

Well, not exactly warm, but rather "not cold". It's the way beer is drunk in the UK the home of real ale.
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Personal logo Private Matter Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 11:42 a.m. PST

There was a reason I crossposted to the utter drivel board. Obviously the tongue in cheek of the post was lost in translation.

To set the record straight I do not drink beer out of can. Nor do I drink my beer below 41 degrees (f). I drink only bottled beer when I can't get it on tap. I prefer pilsners (preferably Czech) but also enjoy a heffeweiss. I do not put fruit in my beer nor will I mix it with lemonade. I spent my summers as a youth in Hesse and as an adult lived in Bavaria for almost 2 Years as well as an additional 18 months back in Hesse. I also lived in the United Kingdom for a number of years. I am picky about my beer.

Having said all that the technology for canning beer is improving so perhaps it may some day be up to par with a bottle. The reason that so many of the canned beer brands are bad is because they start with Bleeped text water as go from there.

Long live the Reinheitsgebot!.

Personal logo Weasel Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 11:59 a.m. PST

If you can't find good beer in the US, you're not looking :-)

olicana25 Jan 2016 12:05 p.m. PST

It is a running joke in old British war time movies that the 'Yanks' complain about warm British beer.

Of course it wasn't warm, it just wasn't chilled. Here in the UK, at that time, we drank mild, stout or bitter and cold lager was drunk by the enemy (there's that tongue in cheek again).

As it happens, my comment was merely a pull on the same old leg. It's gratifying to know it still has old fashioned bells on it.

Cheers,

James

olicana25 Jan 2016 12:13 p.m. PST

Here in the UK, at that time, we drank mild, stout or bitter and cold lager was drunk by the enemy (there's that tongue in cheek again).

Except in Alex', where everyone drank ice cold Carlsberg.

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Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 12:17 p.m. PST

Aluminum, because aluminum is cool. Oops, I thought the post was the best thing they put IN beer cans, my bad.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 12:22 p.m. PST

An example of beer craziness:when my brother was in Dublin about 15 years ago,the native pub – goers were all ordering American Budweiser,which sold as a "premium" beer.

This,in the land of Guinness…

Personal logo Ditto Tango 2 3 Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 12:32 p.m. PST

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MajorB25 Jan 2016 12:46 p.m. PST

Here in the UK, at that time, we drank mild, stout or bitter and cold lager was drunk by the enemy (there's that tongue in cheek again).

Except in Alex', where everyone drank ice cold Carlsberg.

Except of course, Alexandria isn't in the UK. It's in Egypt.

Mute Bystander Inactive Member25 Jan 2016 1:23 p.m. PST

Not a beer drinker (one exception but we won't go into that here,) prefer wine or mixed drinks with meals.Very rarely drink without food…

Cultural xenophobia wink at work on both sides of this issue.

olicana25 Jan 2016 1:41 p.m. PST

Except of course, Alexandria isn't in the UK. It's in Egypt.

Though it was seen, like the rest of Empire, by those Brits there as an extension of the UK. My wife's grandfather was professor of English at Cairo university at the time and, except for the heat, felt quite at home watching the cricket, drinking pink gin, etc. There was a bit of a flap when Rommel took Tobruk but after El Alamein everything was pretty plain sailing – port out, starboard home, and all that.

Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 2:22 p.m. PST

+1 on the newer cans being used by the craft brewers.

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 2:57 p.m. PST

"Long live the Reinheitsgebot!" Couldn't agree more Private Matter.

Most of my beer drinking is German beer, and I have not had many from cans………………but with that said there are at times problems from imports here due to storage/age issues depending on the importer/wholesaler. Happens most on lighter colored bottles.

As far as cans, I do drink some craft brews from them (great to hike with and from a storage standpoint – plus they are not affected by light like bottles can be). I drink Yuengling as my "cheap beer" from time to time. I have found the canned Yuengling Lager is superior to the bottled version.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 2:58 p.m. PST

I had a mixed pack of beers (in bottles!) given to me at Xmas. One of them was a US craft ale and very nice it was too.

It is a shame that in Britain 99.9% of American beer we get is canned dishwater. Keeping the good stuff for yourselves, eh?

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 3:53 p.m. PST

Cerdic, I think it is a function of importing/exporting as well as amounts produced by all of the small breweries. Most just do not have the capacity yet at this point. Also, your VAT may kill the market a little as the Craft beer does come with a higher price tag (for us about the same price as a lot of imports).

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2016 6:14 p.m. PST

Here's an article from a few yearsa ago link

Charlie 1225 Jan 2016 8:06 p.m. PST

It is a shame that in Britain 99.9% of American beer we get is canned dishwater.

When we were in London, my girlfriend noticed that in one pub the "imported" US beers were Budweiser, Miller Lite and Rolling Rock. If that's the quality of imports you're seeing, then I can well understand your low opinion of US beers. None of us over here would touch that swine either.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member25 Jan 2016 8:51 p.m. PST

Nothing out of a can tastes right…….

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2016 12:58 a.m. PST

BTC, yes I think it is a question of volume. If I was running a small craft brewery, exporting would be way down on my list of priorities!

I don't think price is so much of a factor in this market. Premium product is expected to have a premium price. The sort of people who would buy it understand the costs involved. They would have a pint or two of expensive and unusual beer out of curiosity, just to see what it was like.

Charlie 12, quite right. This is why American beer has a bad reputation in Britain! As I said, you need to send us your good stuff!

wrgmr126 Jan 2016 10:12 p.m. PST

The local micro brewery has only bottles, grunts and growlers.
I get one grunt a week. Beer in cans taste bad. However I'm mostly a wine drinker, reds.

MajorB27 Jan 2016 2:31 a.m. PST

only bottles, grunts and growlers.

What on earth are grunts and growlers?

Charlie 1227 Jan 2016 3:58 a.m. PST

A grunt is 32 oz, a growler is 64 oz and a jug is 128 oz. A lot of beer in one go.

MajorB27 Jan 2016 8:41 a.m. PST

A grunt is 32 oz, a growler is 64 oz and a jug is 128 oz. A lot of beer in one go.

That's not a lot of beer in one go. Here in the UK we can buy beer direct from the brewery in the following sizes:

2 litres
3 litres
9 pints
18 pints
36 pints

A full barrel of beer is 72 pints, but you usually only see that in a pub.

jwebster28 Jan 2016 10:54 p.m. PST


Private Matter lives in the USA, so I doubt he noticed. I've never come across an American beer that didn't taste like pi88, and that is, as a matter of fact, why you can't drink American beer warm

Having moved to the US 20 years ago I have to confess that they have some truly excellent beers. They used to call it micro-brew, but after some "strategic" purchases by big breweries it is now called "craft beer"

The good suff does NOT come in cans

The warm beer complaint is a European thing that has been going on for a long time. Americans didn't invent that joke either.

Lager (for instance Carlsberg) sold by big breweries in the British Isles is high priced, low quality, high alcohol content swill with massive marketing campaigns targeted towards people who can't tell the difference but will drink 10-12 pints of it in an evening. Even beer that is good in it's original form gets this treatment. I always thought Heineken was awful until I visited the Heinken brewery in Amsterdam, which is a whole other story, the details of which I don't remember clearly

@Private Matter – I'm glad that you are spending your free time doing useful research. I apologise that some posters do not appreciate your cultural contributions

For my last beerish comment …

In parts of Africa, beer is sold as a health drink, unfiltered beer in milk carton type containers. Provides all those B vitamins. The taste is something I would prefer not to discuss

John

bobm195929 Jan 2016 5:59 a.m. PST

The recent craze for IPA has been amusing. Unless it's been cask conditioned on a rolling sailing ship travelling from the UK to India then it won't taste like IPA!
There's a pretty good book about a guy trying to replicate it with a keg in a rucksack…..

Personal logo capncarp Supporting Member of TMP31 Jan 2016 7:08 p.m. PST

<thumbs up to BTCTerrainman>
The OFM is also partial to Yuengling Lager, and my go-to is their Black & Tan, a blend of their porter and Premium beers. I made the mistake of offering some to a group of ww2 reenactors from the Irish Guard. The name was not well received.
BTW, the local pronunciation sounds like the name of a panda bear--"Ying-Ling"
One of the anecdotes in this genre has folk from Oz comparing American beer to "making love in a canoe"--'cause it's F---ing close to water.

Clays Russians06 Feb 2016 9:00 a.m. PST

Beer in cans is for rogues and scoudrels

Kensboro25 Feb 2016 4:12 a.m. PST

I used to work at a Guinness owned brewery here in the states. We were told the new lined cans are definitely better than bottles, but public perception is still generally against cans and pro glass; so you have to do what the general public wants (if you want to stay in business).

Personal logo capncarp Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2016 11:04 a.m. PST

Charlie 12:
<When we were in London, my girlfriend noticed that in one pub the "imported" US beers were Budweiser, Miller Lite and Rolling Rock. If that's the quality of imports you're seeing, then I can well understand your low opinion of US beers. None of us over here would touch that swine either.>

Hell, even impoverished college students would balk at drinking any of that Trilogy of Malt Horror. And at least the Scepter'd Isles have been spared the ravages of Reading Premium Beer, which is truly sub-dishwater/mixed with weasel whiz. "Blarffff" is the kindest thing I could say about it.

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2016 11:44 p.m. PST

uglyfatbloke Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2016 8:09 a.m. PST

Tiger Beer, directly from big, brown bottles…very, very cold on very, very hot afternoons…I try (with moderate success) not to drink beer in the morning. All I need is someone to whisk me away to Penang or Melaka.

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