Gunfreak | 21 Jan 2016 5:26 a.m. PST |
So i'm going to start on the russian 27th division as part of army of Sillesia at Leipzig. Its a small division of 8 battalionsof. I'm thinking of starting with the jegers. But the perry box comes with 40 figures. Exactly a "full strength battalion " But two of those figures are standard barers, . They are not needed for jeger battalions, so I'm stuck with a akward 38 figure battalion. |
JimDuncanUK | 21 Jan 2016 5:35 a.m. PST |
Time to get your hobby knife out and start converting. |
jeffreyw3 | 21 Jan 2016 6:38 a.m. PST |
Hmmm…which rule set calls for a 40-figure battalion? Russian battalion strengths at Leipzig weren't exactly high anyway. |
Bobgnar | 21 Jan 2016 10:26 a.m. PST |
Convert standardbearers to NCOs with canes or pikes |
Gunfreak | 21 Jan 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
Hmmm…which rule set calls for a 40-figure battalion? Russian battalion strengths at Leipzig weren't exactly high anyway. True and when i use rules that use figure counting, I'll simply remove a base or two. But when i use black powder it's nice to use big battalions. |
jeffreyw3 | 21 Jan 2016 1:25 p.m. PST |
Ah, gotcha! Russian battalions do tend to be on the smaller side--I use 20-22 files per vzvod or ~24 figures @ 1:20. So the Jager good news is no flags, but you do have to paint the regiment number on the cartridge boxes. |
Gunfreak | 21 Jan 2016 1:33 p.m. PST |
I'm going to look for numbers for the battalions. But they should not be to small most of the regiments in the division are single battalions which i assume means they combined the battalions. So they might be bigger then avrage. It has only 7 battalions instead of 12. |
14Bore | 21 Jan 2016 4:11 p.m. PST |
Everything is have ever seen on Russian numbers are they are under manned. I think even when combined they don't reach full roster. But there are limits in war games so I keep my 1x60 battalions about 10 -11 available for musketeers, 8 – 10 for jagers |
Jemima Fawr | 21 Jan 2016 5:00 p.m. PST |
Get a mounted colonel figure and use him to fill the space that would normally be occupied by two standard bearers. A mounted colonel also adds a focus to the command base in those units that lack colours. |
Crucible Orc | 21 Jan 2016 6:46 p.m. PST |
buy a pack of mounted officers and toss one in instead of the 2 standard bearers. that's what i did in my jager battalions. granted, i do 16 figure battalions. but the premise works. |
vicmagpa1 | 21 Jan 2016 9:15 p.m. PST |
especially after borodino. battalions were smaller. |
Greystreak | 22 Jan 2016 5:00 a.m. PST |
Truls, once you've got your 'scale' thing sorted, and your base OOB, the main items to remember for Jaegers (vs. 'Line' Infantry) are: 1. Cartridge Boxes: scrape off any 'Flaming Grenade' emblems, and file flat, so you can free-hand the Regimental number(s) onto them. 2. Straps: Black – including the musket/rifle (instead of Red Russian leather) – often overlooked. 3. Drums: Black rims, with black leather mid-sections, cords are light brown/tan (rather than green & white 'wolf-teeth' triangles and white cords). 4. Plumes, pompons, sword-knots, shoulder straps: either follow the 'traditional' scheme with the Perry instructions, or refer to the updated site by Jonathan Gringerich: link . |
Gunfreak | 22 Jan 2016 9:33 a.m. PST |
Thanks Greystreak! You are the master of russians! I orderd the mounted infantry commanders. I'm sure they'll be here before i start work on the command base. Ps. Would officers use green trousers in winter like regular jaegers? |
huevans011 | 22 Jan 2016 2:52 p.m. PST |
Officers would wear grey overalls or green breeches. |
jeffreyw3 | 23 Jan 2016 9:48 a.m. PST |
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