"Raphia Arab conversions" Topic

We were chatting in another thread about kit-bashing, and these minis are mostly ex-Perry Ansar now serving as Arab thureophoroi-types in my Seleucid army. All of the minis were painted by mate Craig Davey, there's more about them on t' blog:

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Best, Simon

Impressive bunch Simon. I like the way the whole tribe has come along (levee en masse) – good idea to mix a few bows in. They seem keen to get stuck in!

Garry

These look great Simon. Useful for all sorts of things in the period – Magnesia comes to mind.

Thanks chaps! Craig did a great job. I'm thinking of getting another box and converting some to revolting Judeans.

well done

Very nice. Amazing what a shield of shield can do conversions.

I'd have thought that the Perry Ansar have all sort of potential for biblical conversions, Colin, with headswaps. What do you reckon?

Indeed Simon. Have a look again at my blog at Amorites post and you will see them with Mad Robot Miniatures heads etc.

LOL I remember that post!

Nice looking troops Simon!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Adams

Simon

Could you provide some guidance on what figures you recommend for the following in 28mm?

Ptolmeic -
Galatians

Seleucids -
"Cissians & Medes"
"Carmanians"
"Cardacians and Lydians"

Outstanding board you used.

JD

Hi JD,

Ptolmeic – Galatians. I used a mixture of Black Tree and A&A nekkid Celts, with some head swaps from Foundry and other minis and Thureos from varius manufacturers including Essex minis.

Seleucids -
"Cissians & Medes", "Carmanians"' "Cardacians and Lydians"

I didn't paint the above myself, but Craig painted some Crusader Persians that stood in for a lot of these. I recently bought them off him and I'll be posting the pics in the next few days.

Best, Simon

Got it

Your site has me ordering up a monster number of figs from Aventine. I have about 1/3 of the OOB on hand.

Generally what scale are you using on manpower ratio?

I've tried to eyeball how you have that Raphia OOB.

I'm thinking 1000 cav = 12 figs
The roughly 1:100 for foot, so 5000 man pike unit = 48 figs (either 6 or 4 ranks deep)

A few other questions if you don't mind -
I"m using Bar-Kochva as my base OOB.

The Greek Mercenaries "who fought as Phalangites", I'm looking at using Hoplite fig poses, but basing them 4 ranks deep. Maybe with spears instead of pikes? Sound OK.

The Galatians – you think these 3 or 4 figs to a base? I'm going to go with a more irregular type basing look for the non-Phalanx, but want to try and get the frontage close to what would be thought right.

Bar-Kochva calls all the Arabs, Cardacians/Lydians, and Cissians/Medes all "Lights". You have the Arabs mounted more like Heavy or Medium.

So you think them 2, 3 or 4 figs per base?

I've been told maybe to use Aventine Thureophoroi figs for the Cissians/Medes, then the Crusaders you mention for the Cardacian/Lydians?

Any thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Yes roughly 1:100, and based on Bar Kochva.

I would use phalangite minis for the Greeks, with pikes; I don't think they would look different to other pikemen.

Galatians I use 4 to a base, my arabs are 7 to a double base. I'm afraid I don't really know about the Cissias/Medes/Cardacians, need to research them! :-)

Aventine is a sound choice, Keith's service is second to none.

Thanks