"M113s in Europe - Color Questions" Topic
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Mako11 | 15 Jan 2016 12:53 a.m. PST |
I know the M113s delivered to Europe in the 1960s were olive drab (good luck finding the right color for that, given so many interpretations), but what I'd like to know is did the West Germans and the Danes leave them in their standard, US O.D. paint, or did they repaint them immediately (at all)? Considering the idea of hoping for a nice, middle paint color for them, to permit use in all three armies, and find it pretty easy to assume the Americans might cover/repaint those big white stars (targets for enemy gunners), on the sides and glacis of their APCs, just like many troops did back in WWII, once they start seeing what excellent targets they make for enemy gunners, with a penchant for showing off their marksmanship skills. I'm hoping that might work for the 1960s, and perhaps even the first part of the 1970s. Not sure when the Danes started painting their vehicles in the two-toned camo., similar to that for the UK. Obviously, the Germans used Gelb Oliv, I suspect, but some iterations of that look pretty close to O.D., depending upon the vehicle, lighting, dust, and film used in the cameras. Thoughts? |
Weasel | 15 Jan 2016 9:29 a.m. PST |
You can probably get away with most anything. I don't recall seeing them in anything but two-tone in Denmark, but I grew up in the 80's. |
Jemima Fawr | 15 Jan 2016 10:24 a.m. PST |
I think the two-tone camo appeared in the late 70s. Yes, a friend has taken the same approach – he's covered his M113s in camo nets and uses them for everyone. :) |
Legion 4 | 15 Jan 2016 1:49 p.m. PST |
If you want a multi-use scheme … OD |
Mako11 | 15 Jan 2016 6:41 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the replies. I did run across a Danish M113 on Google images, that looks like the plain old O.D. paint, but it had a dozer blade on the front of it. Also, a black and white photo of the Green Archer vehicles shows them in a single color, though I'm not sure when the photo was taken, or if they're really for the Danish army. Sometimes captions, and the sites photos are listed on may be incorrect, or misleading. What color paint did the Danish army use for their vehicles, during the Cold War, before they went to the two-toned scheme of bright green and black/dark gray? I need to know that for the M113s, but also perhaps for Centurions, M41s, M24s, etc., etc.? I've found just one pic of a M24, which appears to be a rather olive drabish color. Same for an older, M41 model, and a scale model of a Centurion. Another M24 appears to be in a brighter, O.D. color, but it is a display vehicle, with the name "Remembrance" painted on the side, so it may not be in the correct color from the period of the 1950s and 1960s. |
Legion 4 | 16 Jan 2016 8:35 a.m. PST |
There were versions of the M113 with the Dozer blade. I don't remember the US using/have any/many … |
Mako11 | 16 Jan 2016 1:37 p.m. PST |
| 16 Jan 2016 2:41 p.m. PST |
The Canadians used M113 dozers as well. |
Jemima Fawr | 17 Jan 2016 4:19 a.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 17 Jan 2016 8:52 a.m. PST |
There was a version of the M113 that was an AVLB. That the US used in small numbers in Vietnam. |
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