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Coelacanth193823 Dec 2015 6:57 p.m. PST

Reposted from Reddit m.imgur.com/gallery/SblXo

45thdiv23 Dec 2015 7:55 p.m. PST

Lots of these all over the pacific. I was scheduled to spend a few weeks in the marshall islands and we had to have a training session on what to be care of touching. And the scuba diving around these old sunken ships is very dangerous.

But these are great pictures.

Darkest Star Games Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Dec 2015 7:57 a.m. PST

I can't identify a few of them. Wonder where that M47 in the field of flowers is? Quite pretty.

joeltks24 Dec 2015 9:29 a.m. PST

Nice pics … But I'm real curious about the tread marks behind the hulks in the forth and sixth photos. Could a couple of those been staged?

Raynman Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2015 9:50 a.m. PST

Some of those look like T-55's. Maybe some of the pictures are from Afghanistan.

nickinsomerset24 Dec 2015 10:15 a.m. PST

The Challenger 1 (4) and Chieftain (6) look to be for recovery training at Borden,

Tally Ho!

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2015 4:48 p.m. PST

So, going pic by pic, let's see how many we can identify.

1. M4 Sherman, somewhere in the Pacific
2. Japanese Type 95 Ha-Go (maybe?)
3. Chieftain
4. Challenger (1 or 2, I can't tell)
5. Spartan APC (or variant)
6. For the life of me, I have no idea. I want to say it's a Chieftain with the turret pointing backwards, but the idler wheel looks like what the Soviets were using and the turret itself doesn't have that drooping-box look.
7. T-55s
8. M4 Sherman
9. T-55s
10. M41 Walker Bulldog (doesn't Thailand still have a bunch of these? Maybe that's where this pic is from)
11. Japanese Type 2 Ka-Mi light amphib (missing its swimming prow and apparently with a some kind of AA machinegun mounted on back)
12. Type 2 Ka-Mi
13. I'll pass
14. Type 97 Chi-Ha (I think; could be a Type 95 Ha-Go)
15. Type 95 Ha-Go
16. I have no idea
17. T-34
18. T-34, again
19. T-62 (?)
20. M4 Sherman
21. M48A5 (or an M60; hard to tell without a better view of the gun mantle or lack thereof)
22. Not sure, but might be an M41 Walker Bulldog (minus the distinctive "T"-shaped muzzle piece)
23. Soviet IS-2
24. Soviet IS-3
25. M2A4 (maybe USMC model on Guadalcanal?)
26. I have no clue!
27. M2A2 "Mae West"
28. M41 Walker Bulldog
29. So not fair…
30. T34
31. M4 Sherman
32. M4 Sherman
33. Type 97 Chi-Ha

Coelacanth193824 Dec 2015 8:11 p.m. PST

I was hoping somebody could identify #13. I was thinking that it was some kind of Frankenstein that somebody slapped together.

mashrewba25 Dec 2015 8:09 a.m. PST

I remember as a child on holiday in Normandy in the 60's (my dad was revisiting his greatest adventure!!!)seeing quite a few in the hedge rows.

John the Greater30 Dec 2015 8:51 a.m. PST

For 26 I would guess a couple of Vickers "tankettes". But why they are abandoned in some snowy mountain area, I have no clue.

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2015 8:12 p.m. PST

21. I say M60 (M60 or M60A1, can't see enough to say). The hull nose is not rounded as on the M48 series.

25. M3A1. On the M2A4 the recuperator for the gun projected out the front of the mantlet and was encased in a barrel sleeve. Also I believe the M2A4s on 'Canal still had the sponson MGs mounted (at least in any pics I've seen of them), and this hulk does not (nor a gap where a sponson MG was removed). Oh, and the M2A4s had a fixed commander's cupola.

27. I'm thinking these might be hulks of Marmon Herrington light tanks. IIRC a couple/few were moved to the Aleutians after the Japanese had been evicted from Attu and Kiska. The suspension does not look like an M2/M3 -- the bogey assemblies are not nearly substantial enough to my eye for the M2/M3 volute springs. Also, though there are two "holed" in the hull roof it appears that those holes could not have mounted 2 turrets. I say the one nearest the camera is a CTLS-4TAC (T-14), with the turret on the right side and the driver seated on the left (with both the turret and the driver's overhead hatches lost to time).

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)
-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2015 9:22 p.m. PST

Nope. Changed my mind. Number 27 is indeed the remains of M2 light tanks. At least that's what I think now. Looking at it closer the hull is too boxy for the CTLS (the sponsons are too squared-off, typical of the M2 and M3/M3A1), and the return rollers are pretty clearly in the peculiar positions of the M2 (2 rollers per side, one just behind the front bogey assembly, the other just in front of the rear bogey assembly). Yep. M2s. At least that's what I think now.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

BW195931 Dec 2015 8:43 a.m. PST

picture

These are the CTLS tanks in Alaska

Not sure about the abandoned tanks tho

Fred Cartwright31 Dec 2015 1:58 p.m. PST

16. Looks like a Chieftain on the gunnery ranges at Lulworth.
26. I think is an AMX-30.

Windy Miller08 Jan 2016 7:45 a.m. PST

6 & 16. Both Chieftans.
29. Centurion ARV.

PVT64108 Jan 2016 8:46 a.m. PST

For 26 I would guess a couple of Vickers "tankettes". But why they are abandoned in some snowy mountain area, I have no clue.


John,
Norway maybe?

Pvt64

No longer can support TMP08 Jan 2016 12:08 p.m. PST

#26 looks like two different types or mark of vehicles. The one in the background has a large beam leading to the rear wheel and the suspension is similar but not quite the same as the near one.

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