FreddBloggs | 22 Dec 2015 10:10 a.m. PST |
Does anyone have any idea or source for the facings etc. for the following 2 regiments? Stringer Foot Regiment and Evans Foot Regiment. As much as I can find out is they were disbanded after the war, so no follow on history for them. |
Who asked this joker | 22 Dec 2015 11:02 a.m. PST |
There is probably something in Grant's Lace Wars books. I am not at home right now but I can have a look this evening (EST). John |
FreddBloggs | 22 Dec 2015 12:00 p.m. PST |
Nope, he has question marks against them |
Who asked this joker | 22 Dec 2015 12:07 p.m. PST |
Nope, he has question marks against them In the words of Homer Simpson "DOH!" How about Condrey/Editions Brokaw? I have those too. Have you checked there? I know they are not listed on the Baccus site. |
Who asked this joker | 22 Dec 2015 12:22 p.m. PST |
Thomas Stringer'sIn February 1702 Thomas Stringer got an appointment to raise a new regiment45. In September 1702 it was ordered to Ireland and to be put on that establishment. On 28 May 1705 the regiment was near Trier. In September 1706 Thomas Stringer died of a fever45b. He was succeeded by James Campbell Duke of Argyll45c. As seen above the Duke of Argyll became colonel of the later 3rd Foot on 25 February 1707 and thus left this regiment. He was succeeded by the Earl of Orrery45d. When Orrery moved to the 21st in 1711 Sybourg became colonel of this regiment. Stringer died a few months after the battle and the colonel was replaced twice. You might have better luck with the colors researching the newer commanders. Colonel Evans will be more difficult to track down as his first name seems unknown. Info from here. link |
Graf Bretlach | 22 Dec 2015 2:22 p.m. PST |
His first name was William, not that will help much. 10 April 1703 Colonel William Evans the same person that took the colonelcy of the 4 Dragoons in 1713, he died a full General in 1740, there is a brief account of him in Dalton page 174 link |
sebastien | 22 Dec 2015 3:17 p.m. PST |
Checked Grant and Brokaw, no info on Stringer's. I painted the facings as yellow since it looks nice and you could take this as authoritative since my surname is Stringer so I am surely right! |
Who asked this joker | 22 Dec 2015 9:33 p.m. PST |
I am sure we probably will never know. Yellow is a reasonable guess as Grant lists that color on some of the other disbanded regiments. Green seems to be the other choice. |
steamingdave47 | 23 Dec 2015 2:10 a.m. PST |
In 1706 the Stringer regiment was Argyll's. In 1709 Argyll had a regiment with green facings; it appears to have been a different regiment to Stringers, but gives a little justification to the suggestion of green facings. At the end of the day, if the combined wisdom of TMPers cannot come up with a definitive answer then you shouldn't have any problem justifying whatever choice you go with. Hope you have better luck refighting this battle than I did last time I commanded the Allies- ended up having to conduct a "fighting retreat" after my two rookie cavalry commanders squandered 90% of my horse! |
FreddBloggs | 23 Dec 2015 3:36 a.m. PST |
Thanks all, the trouble is information is so slim I am not even sure if they are English or Scottish establishment either (matters in the flags). With no other info it boils down to probably White, Yellow or Green, with a lower chance of Blue or Red. Sigh. |
Midway Monster | 23 Dec 2015 4:10 a.m. PST |
I'd have gone with yellow or green – avoid blue which should be reserved for Royal regiments. |
FreddBloggs | 23 Dec 2015 4:25 a.m. PST |
Ahhh not yet it isn't, other than Guards none of them are Royal Regiments yet. |
Graf Bretlach | 23 Dec 2015 7:07 a.m. PST |
Both Regiments raised on the English establishment, Stringers went onto the Irish till Jan 1704 then back on the English, then reduced on the Irish establishment 1713 Strngers 1702-02-12 Thomas Stringer 1706-09-01 John Campbell, duke of Argyll 1707-02-24 Charles Boyle, Earl of Orrery 1710-12-08 Charles Sybourg 1713-10-16 John Corbet both regiments were quite active during the war, I would expect there to be more information on uniform etc out there somewhere, the English archives are slowly appearing. Yellow and green were the most common colour, yellow i thought from the Hanoverians, but actually the colours of the Stuarts or King James. |
FreddBloggs | 23 Dec 2015 9:51 a.m. PST |
Both English, that helps greatly, thank you. |