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Winston Smith19 Dec 2015 9:53 a.m. PST

Just curious to see how long those dinosaurs survived to be useful.

Wackmole919 Dec 2015 10:07 a.m. PST

The one at Grave During Operation Market Garden was defend by the Germans.

zippyfusenet19 Dec 2015 12:12 p.m. PST

The Russians defended Fortress Brest in 1941. The movie is worth watching, if you haven't seen it:

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Jcfrog19 Dec 2015 12:58 p.m. PST

I don't think Brest Litovsk was a "Vauban" type fortress but rather something of mid-late 19th century/ pre WW1.

1944 Cherbourg / Brest ( ours on the sea!) etc. would qualify, with loads of modifications though.

jowady19 Dec 2015 1:30 p.m. PST

Metz, 1944, the fortifications were partly designed by Vauban.

goragrad19 Dec 2015 1:59 p.m. PST

And as to being 'dinosaurs,' Metz was a 'meat grinder.'

John the OFM19 Dec 2015 2:48 p.m. PST

So was T-rex.

jowady19 Dec 2015 4:15 p.m. PST

And as to being 'dinosaurs,' Metz was a 'meat grinder.'

Tell me about it, that's where my Dad was wounded.

bsrlee19 Dec 2015 5:38 p.m. PST

IIRC there were plans to use existing city fortifications by NATO if the Cold War had gone hot. Lots of nice thick masonry tunnels and storage chambers as well as tank unfriendly ditches and ramparts.

Martin Rapier20 Dec 2015 3:04 a.m. PST

Again, the fortifications at Metz, Verdun etc were heavily upgraded in the nineteenth and twentieth century. Vauban was not renowned for his use of concreted in steel domed artillery replacements.

I am sure somewhere in the ETO in ww2 someone fought in an actual Vauban fortess, but even then a lot of them had been customised with addition of concrete pillboxes.

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