"Turnback beginnings" Topic

At what date did Russians, British, and Austrians turn their coats back to show facings?

I'm guessing late 17th / early 18th century?

I know during WSS/GNW no turnbacks-WAS/7YW turnsbacks but how about the wars in between. When should you chane from WSS figures to 7YW figures

Around 1730s. Between Marlburian wars and 7 years war.

By 1734 (War of Polish Succession) all of these three armies wore their coats turned back.

The Swedes had turnbacks in the GNW, 1700 or so.

English Civil War some of Essex's army and later the New Model had different 'lining' colours to their coats. It seems very likely but I've never seen it absolutely proven that these were turned back on the sleeves and were thus the ancestors of turn backs.

Pinning back your coat tails is just a very practical thing to do on the march (unless it's really cold), so it may have been done unofficially for quite some time. The practice was repeated with the greatcoat a hundred years or so later.

As pointed out by Lloyd, the first to officially do it seem to have been the Swedes, which would tally with their gå på tactics. Towards the end of the Marlburian and Great Northern Wars, you see grenadiers in various armies so attired. That of course made it the cool thing to do…

The French seem to have been the last to officialise the practice, around 1760 – And even then their men apparently unhooked the skirts when off duty, for a more civilian appearance.

"The French seem to have been the last to officialise the practice, around 1760 – And even then their men apparently unhooked the skirts when off duty, for a more civilian appearance."

The Becher picture manuscript of about 1757 does show French infantry with turnbacks and cross belts