ccmatty | 01 Dec 2015 8:25 p.m. PST |
Following up on the heels of my Armourfast Cromwell post, I am also simultaneously building a Revell Cromwell at 1/72 scale. It is a beautiful kit. But I am baffled by the rear plate "box" which seems to extend over the smoke emitters (the grill is located on top of this "box"). In doing my research on the Cromwell, I cannot tell if the "box" has a bottom to it? The directions in the kit do not show a piece at the bottom of the "box" right above the smoke emitters. Can someone please let me know if there is such a piece? Better yet, if anyone has built the Revell Cromwell at this scale, perhaps an underside picture of this area? I really am an experienced builder, but perhaps I am slipping in my old age… Thanks for your help. |
ccmatty | 01 Dec 2015 8:59 p.m. PST |
Ditto Tango So sorry it's me again…LOL Actually the cowl is the curved piece that sits onto of the grill. The cowl and the grill actually sit on this rectangular "box" protruding from the rear of the tank – just above the smoke emitters. The question is whether this protruding "box" has a bottom to it or does smoke from the emitters flow upward through the grill (and out the cowl if the cowl is left attached)? |
shaun from s and s models | 02 Dec 2015 3:41 a.m. PST |
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ccmatty | 02 Dec 2015 6:24 a.m. PST |
Shaun, If you look at the rearview photo, focus for a second on the tow-hook in between the two smoke emitters, imagine you looked upwards at the bottom of the "box", I am wondering if there is an actual "bottom" piece or plate right above the tow hook? I am trying to figure out the functionality of the "box" upon which the grill and curved cowl sit… |
shaun from s and s models | 02 Dec 2015 8:08 a.m. PST |
that box is the exhaust box, so I am sure it is closed off t allow the gas to go upwards. hope that helps |
wrgmr1 | 02 Dec 2015 10:01 a.m. PST |
Is the purpose of the exhaust box/cover to prevent water from getting on the exhaust itself? Reason being rain/water gets on a hot exhaust and causes steam, giving away a position if concealed? Or just simple protection for the exhaust itself? |
shaun from s and s models | 02 Dec 2015 10:20 a.m. PST |
the cover over the exhaust is called the Normandy cowl, apparently when the tank is stationary with the engine running the exhaust gasses would travel along the engine deck and enter the tank at the turret/hull join, so crews devised various covers to make the gas go backwards and not forwards, there are a few different designs of cowl/covers for cromwells and comets. |
Griefbringer | 02 Dec 2015 10:22 a.m. PST |
I have an assembled Cromwell somewhere, would need to dig up the model to see how I assembled it. As for the covering cowl, I recall that I did not mount it on the Revell model, but instead added it to one of the Armourfast versions that I built – the other one got the hedgerow cutter. |
Griefbringer | 02 Dec 2015 11:43 a.m. PST |
I checked my Revell Cromwell, and there is actually no bottom part to that rear box. So either there was not one included in the kit, or I lost it somewhere while building it. However, the gap left is not very large, and not visible when the model is on the table. Whether there was actually a gap there, or this is a design error on the part of Revell, I have no idea. |
wrgmr1 | 02 Dec 2015 12:22 p.m. PST |
Nice looking games room Tim, great looking models. Is that a WW1 mark 1 helmet on the wall? I just donated mine to the Great War Museum in Montreal. I had no space to hang it up so it sat in a box for years. Shaun, now that you mention it, I remember reading that many moons ago. |
Camcleod | 02 Dec 2015 1:03 p.m. PST |
A pic of the back end I found on-line:
Also another gallery of the same vehicle on a large pillar: link No bottom plate on the box is evident. |
shaun from s and s models | 02 Dec 2015 2:28 p.m. PST |
spookily enough s&s models started by selling Cromwell turrets for converting the matchbox comet, all those years ago! |
ccmatty | 02 Dec 2015 9:04 p.m. PST |
You guys have answered my question and solved my sleepless nights!!!! Thank you so much. Ditto Tango, I really appreciate your taking the time to take the picture. And, your hobby room is fantastic. The photo solved the mystery and that underside photo was exactly the evidence needed. Grief bringer, there is no part for the bottom, so you didn't lose it. It would appear from Comcloud that there is no such part. Cam cloud – thanks for the picture. Mystery solved. This is why I am hooked on TMP and have been for years. |
shaun from s and s models | 03 Dec 2015 2:17 a.m. PST |
I started the Cromwell turret and started selling it in 1986, the year s&s models started. we now do a hessian conversion of it for the armourfast hull:-
next year is our 30th year! great shot of the back, so it does look hollow, trouble is many pics of vehicles never get underneath like that. |
LeonAdler | 03 Dec 2015 3:46 a.m. PST |
Ditto Tango 2 3 Great Wargames room and lovely collection :) L |
Murvihill | 03 Dec 2015 10:41 a.m. PST |
"Thanks wrgmr, the helmet is my wife's grandfather who fought with the Americans in WWI. I not II. grin There's also the star flag with two stars – and two patches of mold or discolouration. The stars are for her grandfather and his brother, not sure of the significance of blue versus silver colours." Blue star-Family member in uniform, silver star-unofficially family member discharged due to wounds, gold star- family member died in service. Look up "service flag" in Wikipedia and it gives the details. |