Tango01 | 27 Nov 2015 3:22 p.m. PST |
"The Turkish army has suspended flights over Syria as part of an ongoing joint military campaign with the United States against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) after it shot down a Russian jetfighter, sparking an unprecedented crisis between Ankara and Moscow. The decision was taken following the eruption of the crisis with Russia in which a Turkish F-16 downed a Russian warplane early Nov. 24 after it allegedly violated Turkish airspace, according to diplomatic sources. Sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, stressed that the suspension of the Turkish jetfighters' participation in the U.S.-led military operations against ISIL was in fact a mutual decision taken with Russia, which also halted its aerial campaigns near the Turkish border. Both parties will continue to be as careful as possible in a bid to avoid a repetition of such incidents until they re-establish dialogue channels to reduce the tension…" Full article here link This is a wise move. In the past two days Russian military jets have been bombing every possible Turkish target in Syria, and I am sure that the Russian military is itching to shoot down a Turkish fighter and/or fighters. I am also sure that the U.S. and NATO are now telling Turkey to back-down …. which if these report is true tells me that they have succeeded… and the Kurds are so happy! (smile).
Also… "Turkey suspends flights over Syria, Russia launches electronic warfare against Ankara" link Amicalement Armand |
David Manley | 27 Nov 2015 3:38 p.m. PST |
They've twigged that their aircraft in Syrian airspace have the same rights as the Russian Su-24 they shot down, and with S-400s in the area….. |
Mako11 | 27 Nov 2015 3:45 p.m. PST |
Apparently, there's a pretty strong offensive going on in Russia on the economic side of things as well, against Turkish companies too. |
Tango01 | 27 Nov 2015 3:50 p.m. PST |
You are right my friend… Russia just dealt a huge blow to Turkey over its downing of a Russian warplane "Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced on Friday that Russia would be suspending its visa-free travel agreement with Turkey, in light of Turkey's decision to shoot down a Russian warplane earlier this week. The suspension, which will make it harder for Russians to travel to Turkey, is likely to have a significant negative effect on Turkey's economy. Russians account for a huge portion of Turkey's tourism industry. About 3.3 million Russian tourists visited Turkey in 2014, the second-largest number of tourist arrivals after Germany and around 12% of total visitors, according to Reuters…" link Amicalement Armand |
zippyfusenet | 27 Nov 2015 4:41 p.m. PST |
Erdogan seems to be pursuing a strategy of "the worse things are, the better they are". Russian pressure may just help him rally patriotic Turkish support for his next power play. |
Oh Bugger | 27 Nov 2015 6:27 p.m. PST |
That would be right mind you if the Russians cut the gas supply it'll take more than arresting journalists to shore up his position. |
Mako11 | 27 Nov 2015 7:19 p.m. PST |
Well, if so, that seems to follow in the footsteps of Putin's policies. On a somewhat related note, I read that Ukraine is cutting off their use of Russian gas, and has imposed a ban on Russian overflights as well. |
Oh Bugger | 28 Nov 2015 3:27 a.m. PST |
And expelling foreign journos last time I looked. |
GeoffQRF | 28 Nov 2015 7:39 a.m. PST |
There seems to be some uncertainty as to whose decision it was to suspend gas supplies to Ukraine |
Legion 4 | 28 Nov 2015 8:27 a.m. PST |
It's all part of geo-politics/realpolitik. And if you note it all comes down to one way or another. In one form or another … |
Bangorstu | 28 Nov 2015 9:05 a.m. PST |
As mentioned, I think they've twigged that borders can be defended both ways… Good news for the Kurds. |