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Tango01 | 25 Nov 2015 10:58 a.m. PST |
"…Henry's legendary victory at the Battle of Agincourt 25 October 1415 is a highly popularized and historically interpreted event of the 'dark' medieval age. The victor of Agincourt, though remembered today for his decisive and shocking victory over an overwhelmingly numerically superior French host, is often spared the criticism of having shed so much blood in a useless military action which could have cost him his life and annihilated his already diminished and weak (vulnerable) army. Agincourt regardless of its great cultural significance, including in the time of the Tudors where anti-French propaganda served a direct political purpose in England, is still a controversial topic of medieval history today. The battle was really a blunder by both sides, for the English it was a lost cause chevauchée launched by King Henry in a campaign which had deteriorated into merely a fight for survival for the men under his command. [5] The French despite facing a small, hungry, and sick force chose a poor field of battle, slowed down by the thick mud of the freshly ploughed field; were slaughtered by arrows in the futile charge or cut down by the English men-at-arms waiting for them on the other side. Whether it is dramatic interpretation or the interpretations of authors in academic or popular histories, Henry V's Battle of Agincourt under the hail of arrows and carnage of that French onslaught, commanding the center battle, turning back two massive charges of knights and men-at-arms, is an iconic historical imagery even into the modern era…" Full article here link Do you agree? Amicalement Armand |
steamingdave47 | 25 Nov 2015 12:04 p.m. PST |
I think the author has a point in suggesting the battle was a result of blunders by both sides. Henry clearly underestimated the time it would need for Harfleur to be taken. The loss of men to sickness was also something he did not take proper account of. The French blunders were tactical, their strategy was fairly sound, but they persisted in tactics which had not worked in the lpast and were even less likely to work in the ground conditions which prevailed at Agincourt. I note that the author propagates the myth of "Welsh archers". Recent studies of the muster rolls and other contemporary documents suggest no more than 400 Welsh in an army of perhaps 6000 to 7000. (see Ann Curry's work). Most of the archers in Henry's army were actually English. The Welsh had been in rebellion until just before Henry's army left for France, so it is not surprising that they were a smaller proportion of the army than they had been at Crecy and Poitiers. The following link explores this issue link |
Navy Fower Wun Seven | 25 Nov 2015 12:15 p.m. PST |
Looks like the usual revisionist bollox to me – all to sell a few more books… |
Great War Ace | 25 Nov 2015 2:15 p.m. PST |
What an odd illustration. One lazy shooter still holding his bow, holding off the horde of French chivalry. The rest of the visible yeomanry are all yelling with swords. Other details are equally odd, but I won't bother…. |
Tango01 | 26 Nov 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the link!. Amicalement Armand |
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