Timmo uk | 25 Nov 2015 11:26 a.m. PST |
There may be a U-turn on that one. |
Tgunner | 25 Nov 2015 11:52 a.m. PST |
So, with this logic I'll take my car and spend several thousand dollars servicing it and extending its useful life for several years. Then I'll use it for about a year then ditch it when I decide that I'm going to buy a new car four years from now. And yeah, it's my only car by the way. No big deal, I'll just bum a ride with my neighbor who lives waaaay over there for a ride. Sure, that makes a lot of sense! |
Navy Fower Wun Seven | 25 Nov 2015 12:17 p.m. PST |
Just as well the world is such a peaceful, rational place right now, Eh? |
Mako11 | 25 Nov 2015 12:20 p.m. PST |
Whew. Thought they'd decided to scrap the carrier(s) before they even got their F-35s, assuming that really happens. |
BattlerBritain | 26 Nov 2015 5:40 a.m. PST |
That's not half of it. They decided to scrap all Nimrod sub-hunters part way through a £4.00 GBPbn upgrade just to save money. Afterall, all the Soviet subs had gone away hadn't they? Within days of the cancellation decision they'd taken JCB diggers to the Nimrod airframes. It was so fast it was startling. They also made the RAF crews and civilian support staff redundant pretty quick too. Now that there are constant reports of Soviet subs outside of the UK boomer base at Faslane and that UK has to ask for US and French support to hunt for them the UK Gov decides it wants to buy P8 sub hunters, and they want them 5 minutes ago. Never mind that there are no RAF sub-hunter crews left or civilian UK workers that supported them. It'll be at least 5 years before UK gets the sub-hunting capability back. |
Bangorstu | 26 Nov 2015 7:03 a.m. PST |
Mako – we're now keeping both carriers, MoD just got some more cash. BattlerBritain – the new Nimrods didn't work and the old ones were unsafe. We should have bought Poseidon years ago rather than faffing around. But there are RAF sub-hunter crews because they've been training on other peoples' Poseidons from what I read. But yes, I doubt we'll have a capability soon. |
Jemima Fawr | 26 Nov 2015 7:32 a.m. PST |
BB, Sadly, the MAA dictated that MR2 would have to be grounded – that decision was out of the hands of RAF or government. Most of the former Nimrod aircrew are currently on foreign P3, P8 and other foreign MR types. There are also quite a few working on the ground side of MR ops. According to some AEOp mates of mine, the RAF has deliberately ensured that there are enough people qualified in all positions on P8s to create an OCU straight off the bat. |
Lion in the Stars | 26 Nov 2015 9:47 a.m. PST |
Who was it that said the Nimrods were all apparently coach-built, so no two airframes were similar enough to share parts? Can't do a damn upgrade program when you need to redesign the freaking wing for every bird! |
Jemima Fawr | 26 Nov 2015 9:58 a.m. PST |
Yep, that was one among the many problems. |
BattlerBritain | 27 Nov 2015 10:42 a.m. PST |
Where I worked there were 650 civilians supporting Nimrod 24/7 (mainly MSS, some MRA4). A month after they chopped Nimrod they were all gone as they closed the site. They're not going to get them back in a hurry. |
John Treadaway | 27 Nov 2015 3:02 p.m. PST |
Within days of the cancellation decision they'd taken JCB diggers to the Nimrod airframes. It was so fast it was startling. As I said elsewhere, TSR2/Avro Arrow Nothing new… John T |
Lt Col Pedant | 28 Nov 2015 9:52 a.m. PST |
And Dave claims we don't want to out-source our security to other people. Perhaps someone should remind him of Nimrod. But, then, he'll probably think it's a hedge-fund. |