"New Austrian 1980s Orbats & TO&Es" Topic

This one's for you, IainAF!

I've written some new orbats and TO&Es for the Austrians in the 1980s. Some interesting stuff here, including lots of tank turret bunkers and a complete absence of guided weapons (for those who like a challenge)!

PDF link

As usual, these are written for my Modern mod of Battlefront: WW2 by Fire & Fury Games fireandfury.com

Each infantry stand therefore represents a section/squad and each vehicle, aircraft or heavy weapon represents 2-3 actual items.

Huzzah!!

Many thanks.

You're welcome.

Now crack on with the Finns, Swiss, Swedes and Yugoslavs!!

(only joking of course).

None taken… ;)

I'm going to finish my re-vamp of the Soviet lists first, followed by Warpac, though the Swedes and Finns are likely to appear at some point soon(ish).

I noticed that you list the 4K 7FA-G127 as an option – I was under the impression that they were only built for export, the Bundesheer preferred to upgrade their existing vehicles to A1 standard instead.

MA,

I must admit that I was losing the will to live trying to work out what the alphabet soup of Austrian APC designations was, so I've probably used the wrong designation! What's the designation for the upgraded version?

I used the Saurer/Steyr 'commercial' designations for them, partly because they seem to be better known and also because I couldn't discover what the Austrian military designations were for all the variants.

But what about *my* will to live? :)
Near as I can tell, the upgraded APCs were collectively referred to as SPzA1, the engine-specific designations being dropped.

The rest of the alphabet soup appears to have gotten worse rather than better, however – I'm tempted to recommend to simply ignore the upgrade, since I'm not sure any of it is actually all that game-relevant:
- automatic transmission
- new steering system
- improved engine cooling
- lights modified to comply with new traffic regulations
- maintenance hatch enlarged and fitted with distinctive side-opening doors instead of bolted-on plate
- new intrument panel
- heater
- 3-tone camo

…and looking that up, I noticed that you got the G1 and G2 suffixes backwards.
G1 referred to the version with the 20mm Oerlikon (pre-A1; after the upgrade, they were denoted by /MK)
G1 is for the .50cal, and only from 1968 until the A1; before, they had no suffix; after the upgrade, it was a horrible mess depending on use that gives me a headache.

…do you want to hear something "hilarious"?
I just found type numbers for the bloody things, too.
This is all from a Truppendienst handbook dated 1986, so should be just about perfect, right?
…right?

4K4F Typ 364 GrW-1
4K4F Typ 364 GrW-2
Both 81mm M-1 + 7.62mm MG

4K3FA Typ 365 G1
20mm MK or 12.7mm MG
(yes, seriously)

4K3FA Typ 365 G2
12.7mm MG

4K4FA Typ 368 G1/MK
20mm MK

4K3FA Typ 365 Pi1
4K3FA Typ 365 Pi2
4K3FA Typ 365 Pi2b
Engineer variants, each with 12.7mm MG

4K3FA Typ 370 Fü1
4K3FA Typ 370 Fü2
Command vehicles, 7.62mm MG

4K3FA Typ 365 K
Command vehicle, 12.7mm MG

4K3FA Typ 366 FS
4K3FA Typ 366 FS/A
Radio telegraph vehicles, 7.62mm MG

4K3FA Typ 367 FüA1
4K3FA Typ 367 FüA2
4K3FA Typ 367 FüA3
4K3FA Typ 367 FüA4
Artillery command/observation vehicles, 7.62mm MG

4K3FA Typ 369 FüFlA
Air defense command vehicle, 7.62mm MG

4K4FA Typ 371 San
Ambulance